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N.M. deputy under fire for spouting atheist views to Christian protesters

July 28th, 2010 · 42 Comments


By Carlos Miller
Here is an issue that is ripe for debate on this blog because it involves private property rights, freedom of religion and the First Amendment rights of law enforcement officers.

A group of Christians were protesting against a Rob Zombie rock concert at the Hard Rock Cafe in Albuquerque last week.

A Bernalillo County Sheriff’s deputy ordered the group to leave because they were standing on “private property.”

“You can go or you can go to jail,” Deputy Jim Goff told the Christians, who were holding up signs and lambasting the concertgoers for listening to what they believe is devil’s music

As the Christians protested the deputy’s order, Goff turned to the concertgoers and asked the following:

“Guys, do you want them to stay or go?”

The concert goers naturally wanted them to leave.

One of the Christians then accused Goff of acting illegally by asking the opinion of the concertgoers, but my guess is that he still would have thrown them out, even if the concertgoers would have insisted they stay.

As Goff is leading the group off the property, the group continued to inform the concertgoers that they are all going to hell, which prompted Goff to spout his atheist views on the group.

“I am a non-believer, there is no god, there is no Jesus, there is no Satan,” Goff said.

And that, of course, prompted the Christians into telling him he’s going to hell.

And finally, when they are outside the gates of the venue, Goff accused the Christian who is shooting the video of being gay.

“You must have a crush on me, man are you like a gay homosexual, you keep filming me,” Goff said.

And then the Christians are arrested a few seconds later – under what charges, I haven’t a clue because the sheriff’s office has not released that info to the New Mexico media.

But the media did get Bernalillo County Sheriff Manuel Gonzalez to say Goff acted inappropriately by making these personal comments.

So obviously, they are having a hard time coming up with charges against the Christians because it’s not like the press was unable to get a hold of the sheriff. I’m betting we’ll see a few disorderly conduct charges.

Or as we prefer to call it, contempt-of-cop charges.

Personally, I don’t have a real issue with Goff stating his personal views. Cops down here do that all the time and as long as they are not physically assaulting me or giving me unlawful orders, I don’t have a problem with it. They have the same rights to their views as we do.

While it may be unprofessional, the real issue is why were these Christians arrested after they had already been escorted off the property and were no longer trespassing?

Although they protested the deputy’s orders, they did not physically resist him. They simply walked off as they sent everybody to hell. Literally.

Longtime Photography is Not Crime reader M.G. Bralley, who is a retired Albuquerque police officer, New Mexico blogger and photographer emailed me the video with some comments of his own as well as a link to a law-enforcement article titled “controlling public protest: First Amendment implications.”

From the  article:

Three general first amendment principles guide departmental decision making in controlling public protest. First, political speech in traditional public forums, such as streets and parks, is afforded a very high level of first amendment protection, and blanket prohibitions of such speech are generally unconstitutional. Second, reasonable time, place, and manner restrictions on such speech are permissible if they are content-neutral, narrowly tailored to serve substantial government interests, and leave ample alternative ways for the speech to occur. Third, speech or expressive conduct can be restricted because of its relationship to unlawful conduct, such as disorderly conduct or trespass.

So even though the area they were standing in was considered a public space, meaning it was open to anybody regardless if they had a ticket or not, the Hard Rock most likely had the right to have the protesters removed.

Bralley criticizes Goff for asking the concertgoers for their opinion on whether the Christians should stay or go, even suggesting that he might have been inciting a riot.

But we could also argue that the Christians were inciting a riot for criticizing the concertgoers for their musical taste.

“I think the Sheriff’s Deputy abandoned his duty by how he spoke. He ‘got out of uniform,’ by making it personal,” Bralley said.

Bralley describes himself as a Peelian, a supporter of Sir Robert Peel, founder of the Metropolitan London Police and creator of the theory of “community policing” – something we hear a lot about these days but rarely see in action.

Peel’s theory requires officers to specialize in mediation and conflict resolution among other things. Goff did not attempt to do either.

But as much as Goff is being criticized, he never seemed to have a problem being videotaped.

Yes, there is that one instance where he accused the videographer of being gay, but he never ordered him to shut the camera off.

But a second deputy can be seen continually ordering the videographer to “turn it off” while the videographer tells him “I have the right to videotape.”

That’s where the video ends and we can assume the deputy turned off the camera before arresting the videographer.

But nobody is making an issue over that incident.


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42 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Bradley Jardis // Jul 28, 2010 at 5:46 AM

    Law enforcement officers (while on duty) have very limited and close to non-existent rights to freedom of speech… at least under the federal Constitution.

  • 2 Rob // Jul 28, 2010 at 5:47 AM

    As a libertarian, photographer and atheist, there is absolutely nothing about this story that doesn’t make me cringe.

  • 3 Odin Zifer // Jul 28, 2010 at 5:56 AM

    First off WOW would the cops have given that many chances to any other protesters?
    EX. would the person with the poster “you can me good with out god” outside a church on Sunday be treated with the same kid gloves?

  • 4 slayerboy // Jul 28, 2010 at 6:16 AM

    This story needs to be dissected in simple terms to see where the issue really is.

    1. Christians are upset that Rob Zombie is playing a concert in their area at a private establishment and they are protesting — *FINE*

    2. Cops show up and escort the Christian group off of the private property — *Not cool, but it is private property*

    3. Cop harasses Christian group because he is an atheist and subsequently takes issue with being recorded — *NOT COOL*

    4. Christians videotaping the cops — *FINE*

    The missing link? Why were the cops called in the first place or were they doing security at the “private” property? If it is indeed private property, private security should have been used. Then the protesters should have been escorted off of the private property and allowed to protest on “public” property.

    The issue is that the cop let his personal beliefs dictate the way he performed his job. That’s the main reason why I have a problem with police officers being able to use discretion. I have no problem with PEACE officers who are there to act as an “instant” arbitrator (enough to keep things peaceful and moved on to more formal stuff if need be) and solve crimes as well. Preventing crimes never works, which is why discretion ends up causing more problems than good. No violence against any other living creature or object was committed in this case, the police should have never been called .

    I’ve been to plenty of rock concerts where protesters were out in full force and nothing happened, we all pretty much laughed at them and heckled a few of them that got in our faces. That’s usually what happens at most concerts from what I can tell.

  • 5 SteelToad // Jul 28, 2010 at 6:21 AM

    There were people in line at a Rob Zombie concert ???

    But seriously, Goff seemed fine to me, and I think his statements about being athiest were probably in response to their telling him that he was going to hell as well, basically letting them know that their comments had no effect on him. Asking the crowd their opinion was actually a smart move on his part, knowing that they were video taping and getting the crowds opinion on the groups presence indicates that they were disturbing the peace, and that it wasn’t just the officers opinion.The “are you gay” thing, while unprofessional, was probably more of a dig at the sensibilities of the videographer than a complaint about being videotaped. Asking an outspoken christian if they are gay, insulting without being overtly insulting. Frankly I wouldn’t mind it if there were a few more officers out there like Goff

    Officer Allen on the other hand, needs to be sent back to the academy for a few refreshers courses. He clearly seems to be one of those officers who thinks that because an officer says it that it’s a lawful order. I dont think he was specifically against videotaping, he was against them not doing exactly what he said no matter what it was.

  • 6 John Howard // Jul 28, 2010 at 6:47 AM

    Sounds like the videographer has a case for per se defamation, having his sexuality questioned by Baldie.

  • 7 Mike T // Jul 28, 2010 at 7:27 AM

    “Gay homosexual…” so… he’s straight?
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  • 8 Jon // Jul 28, 2010 at 7:31 AM

    The supreme court just ruled against the cop’s right to say anything of the sort. It was the ruling on the Christian group that said they are not allowed to exclude people from their group as long as they are taking public funds and attending a public college. Likewise, the cop is taking public funds therefore his freedom of speech is nothing.

    As long as a cop is on duty and taking public funds he has no 1st amendment right. Now if we got rid of socialized policing and went to private policing it would be fine, just not very smart if you were dealing with a violent group.

  • 9 Johnathan Doe // Jul 28, 2010 at 7:51 AM

    In Indiana, if one doesn’t have a “contractual interest” and is told to leave private property by an owner and/or agent of the property, and they don’t, they can be arrested for criminal trespass.

    In a case like this, I would have had an agent of the property tell the men the land they were standing on was private. I would have him explain where the private property that he owned, or was an agent of, ended. I would give them three chances to move, not repeat myself fifty plus times before arresting them. Arrest them after they refuse for the third time. Seems fair to me.

    If you don’t own it, then don’t argue about it being public/private unless you are 100% sure. Even with that, public property doesn’t mean open for 100%, no exception public use. I can just walk into my state governor’s office and use his computer because the building and equipment were purchased with tax money.

    The cops should have locked these guys up. I don’t play the push game. You either start moving on your own power, and keep moving, or you go to jail. As for the video, it would be taken in as evidence, and played at trial to show the jury the person(s) were told by an owner/agent, and LEOs, that they were on private property, that they were told repeatedly where the private property ended, and told repeatedly to leave.

  • 10 Bubba Man // Jul 28, 2010 at 9:28 AM

    I’ve never been a cop, but I’ve been a fed.
    And I do know that *WHEN ON DUTY* or in public in uniform, you are not allowed to posses political or religious opinions, let along express them.
    Leave them in the locker.
    Period, Freaking Dot, End of line.

    I think that cops should use the same standard.

  • 11 RH // Jul 28, 2010 at 9:58 AM

    Goff earned his stupid cop award hands down, as soon as the protesters were on the sidewalk they were fine, one which they pay for thru heavy taxation like all of us.

    To both of you loser cops, it’s time for budget cuts I see, and jobs at you’re local car wash we’re you will earn your money rightfully. The government is too large, powerful, and unaccountable for this crap. The only way we the people are ever going to get this under control is by heavy restrictions and oversight on the money government takes from us.

  • 12 Alex // Jul 28, 2010 at 10:07 AM

    If there’s one thing I hate more than cops it’s Christian protesters.

  • 13 Hazy // Jul 28, 2010 at 10:20 AM

    I do not agree with what you have to say, but I’ll defend to the death your right to say it.

    My feelings on the Christians.

  • 14 Bob // Jul 28, 2010 at 10:37 AM

    What I don’t understand exactly is the roll of police officers. I know they enforce the laws. That much is obvious. But when no law has been broken, what gives them the right to order you around to “maintain the peace”? If they are trespassing, ask them to leave. If they don’t leave, then arrest them. If they are not trespassing, why are you even there? I’m not in favor of a police state, but I would much rather the laws be applied uniformly then at the whim and mood of police officers. While we like to inject human feelings into every aspect of our lives, you’ll find that in a court room feelings won’t get you very far. We need consistency in all levels of our legal system for the cries of discrimination and persecution to end.

  • 15 Rob Molecule // Jul 28, 2010 at 10:42 AM

    The first concert I ever attended was AC/DC and there were Christian protesters. Honestly, I thought it was exciting and kind of funny. But that was at an arena and probably semi-public property. Look, they can do what they want off the Hard Rock’s property. I’m sure none of the concertgoers cared, and I’d consider it an honor to have Christian protesters show up when my band was playing. As for the cop, part of me likes to see a cop who is an atheist and acknowledges it, but then again, I wouldn’t have liked it if the tables were turned and he was a prejudiced Christian abusing his power against me.

  • 16 Rob Molecule // Jul 28, 2010 at 10:44 AM

    Yes, I know they said they wanted them gone, when the cop asked, but I’m sure a lot of them were not as upset as churchgoers would be if atheists protested a church. I would bet that Rob Zombie was not upset at protesters.

  • 17 Happy Tinfoil Cat // Jul 28, 2010 at 11:03 AM

    I like the bald cop, a lot. Everything he did or said on the tape was perfectly fine and legal as far as I can tell. (I’m not a gay homosexual or a non-gay homosexual or even a lawyer BTW) The only doubt I have is whether or not the entrance is actually private property vs. public sidewalk. But still, the cop was following where he was told the public/private line exists.

    I’d guess the casino owns the sidewalk, pays taxes on the sidewalk, must maintain the sidewalk and assume any liabilities there but is probably a ‘public’ sidewalk and the American Taliban has the right to demonstrate there, but I don’t know.

    The tall cop demanding the camera be turned off, not so much. That was wrong and uncool.

    The cop can say he’s a non-believer and the protesters can say he’s going to hell for it; Freedom of speech and all that. The cop can ask if the crowd wants them there, he’s not taking a vote on it, he’s pointing out that they are not welcome. Get off the private property already! Go make a nuisance of yourself on public property.

  • 18 the bulldog // Jul 28, 2010 at 11:03 AM

    ofc allen needs to fry! ofc goff was tolerable and at least made the event entertaining…

  • 19 Johnny Law // Jul 28, 2010 at 11:36 AM

    Looks good to me. I would not stood there and told them to leave 10 to 15 times like they did in the video. I’ve dealt with trespassing calls like that where the person wanted to debate everything. I tell them maybe twice then the cuffs go on. Those guys needed to go to jail because they required the officers to waste way too much time on them.

    The only thing I have issue with is the bald officer getting into a religious debate with the guys. Saying his opinion like that could create the (false) impression that he was only kicking them out because he disagreed with them.

    I think the tall officer was only telling the guy to turn his camera off at the end because he was putting the person under arrest. I also turn off the cell phones of people I arrest. So what?

    As for why they were arrested, I’m pretty sure it is because the officers had to repeatedly tell them to leave. Even though they finally left, if the officer had to tell them to leave multiple times, then they were probably arrested for trespassing or disobeying a lawful order.

  • 20 Jaden Carver // Jul 28, 2010 at 12:55 PM

    I see nothing wrong here either.

    A cop is going to have an opinion (that will undoubtably be the driving force behind his behavior) regardless of whether or not he says something or keeps quiet.

    I see no problem with him giving up his right to remain silent. The only thing he can do by speaking his opinion is provide evidence to the defendants against him, just like somebody getting arrested will only be giving up information to an officer, unless he chooses to remain silent. If he doesn’t give up any evidence and he is acting in a lawful way, then so be it.

    I’m coming from Utah, where everybody is religious, I’ve heard p.l.e.n.t.y. of religious crap from cops around here, and they are on duty, and in this neck of the woods nobody makes a fuss about that either, and you’d be laughed out of a courtroom for complaining about it. I respect their right to have an opinion, as long as they act lawfully and their opinion remains, as this officer’s did, just an opinion. He executed his duties lawfully and is 100% in the right.

    Given.. the other officer had no right to demand the guy shut off his camera, unless the other people WERE getting arrested, but I’m pretty sure that was the case, since nobody pretended that they weren’t being filmed.

  • 21 Fran // Jul 28, 2010 at 3:15 PM

    The bald cop was a bit overboard with his “preaching” and calling names, but was correct about trespass and private property. The other officer telling the videographer to turn off the camera seems inconsistent with their 1st amendment rights unless he was placing him under arrest, then it’s understandable.

  • 22 Fred Sands // Jul 28, 2010 at 5:27 PM

    As both a Christian and a Rob/White Zombie fan, I find this vid somewhat funny. If you’re on private property, you need to leave when asked. Period.

    The Deputy, however, showed a remarkable lack of professionalism.

    This is how a real professional behaves. If only they could all be like this.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_JtFBnFS1Y

  • 23 They Want You Fired // Jul 28, 2010 at 5:55 PM

    This department serves my neighborhood, though I think these deputies are assigned to the South Valley, not the North Valley where I reside. Hard Rock Casino is located on the Isleta Indian Reservation, south of Albuquerque. They do have a small police department but likely needed help with the crowds so BCSO came in. The same happens at Route 66 Casino (Laguna Tribe). I always thought photography was forbidden on Isleta land but I may be wrong. They have some signs around saying that. Things do get complex when one is on tribal lands.

  • 24 RandomCitizen // Jul 28, 2010 at 7:11 PM

    @SteelToad: So it’s OK for cops to antagonize people to try to get them to respond in kind? Sounds a lot like entrapment to me (trying to goad someone unwilling to do something that could be construed as assaulting an officer and/or “interfering” with an officer). So no, that’s not OK. He’s there to enforce the law, NOT try to make people commit crimes so he can arrest them or whatever. Not to mention it’s highly, highly unprofessional behavior. It wouldn’t be tolerated in other fields of employment, why should cops be any different?

    His asking the crowd their opinion had the potential to escalate things into a riot, not to mention it interfered with their concert just as much (if not more so) than the protests were. This was also highly unprofessional, and again appears to be trying to intentionally make the situation WORSE than it was when he arrived. Was he maybe hoping he could get things stirred up enough that he could arrest the protesters on charges stronger than trespassing and/or disorderly conduct? I don’t know, but the way he did things leaves it as a distinct possibility.

    As for his religious views, he’s perfectly entitled to them when he’s out of uniform. When in uniform he’s an officer of the government, and as such the constitution’s limits on separation of church and state apply. Basically he was promoting his “religion” (Atheism) while an officer of the government, making it look like an official government response.

    So yes, he needs to be investigated and he needs some serious retraining. Instead of trying to goad people into a response, either arrest them if they’ve done something wrong, or keep your mouth shut. (And it sounds like they could have arrested them for trespassing no problem.) And stop promoting your own religious beliefs while in uniform. (Or lack thereof, still applies.)

    I do find it suspicious they haven’t said what they charged them with however. If it was just trespassing, why not say so? It was disorderly conduct why not say so? The only reason I can see to keep quiet about this is if the charges would be _obviously_ bogus to anyone.

  • 25 dale // Jul 28, 2010 at 9:23 PM

    Sounds like this “deputy” is a blank blank joke and maybe things have come back to bite or arrest his ass. I know there is much more to this story, what has been hidden over 19 yrs of Loyal Service to the public, and on overtime???? Wow I can,t print my views of this “upstanding” mofo

  • 26 Tom Jankowski // Jul 28, 2010 at 11:03 PM

    Why can’t cops act like this at Westboro Baptist Church’s protests?

  • 27 DJ Todd // Jul 28, 2010 at 11:54 PM

    Oh Carlos….Why do you post these things. These types of posts only will confuse more people about the laws. Stick to real abuse of power. Not, “a cop said something I didn’t like” type post.

    If you go on private property and the owner/landlord says quit taking pictures that’s fine, you can stay as long as you are not taking pictures. If they ask you to leave, well, you can leave or stay. They cannot detain you. If you stay they can call the police. At this point the police can arrest or drag you off or what ever. But they can not take your photographs that you have made. Those are still yours. They can call your mom fat your sister ugly and your god dumb.
    They cannot stop you from taking pictures on PUBLIC property.

  • 28 stampy // Jul 29, 2010 at 12:48 AM

    so these asshole christians are bitching about freedom of speech, yet the cop said something and all hell breaks loose, because he spoke freely? whats a bunch of nosey pretentious shitheads. they can go back to the 18th century when people were dumber then we are now, and they can talk about the bible and dragons and go on witch hunts all day long. hipocrites.

  • 29 SteelToad // Jul 29, 2010 at 6:32 AM

    @RandomCitizen No, I’m not saying that it’s alright for a police officer to antagonize people, what I said was that his comments about his religion were ‘probably’ in response to being told he was going to hell (as they were telling other people). I say ‘probably’ because interestingly there is a cut in the video right before each of the police statements or actions that could be taken as confrontational. If you go back and look the video seems to have been selectively edited. I’d really like to see the full version before I cast any judgement.

    If somebody tells a cop “You’re only arresting me because you’re white” and the officer replies with “but sir, I’m black” that isn’t antagonism. If somebody tells a cop “You’re going to be struck down by the flying spaghetti monster”, and the officer says “there isn’t a flying spaghetti monster”, that’s not antagonism.

    The Hard Rock cafe is located in the Pueblo of Isleta, a sovereign nation. As I said, some of his comments were unprofessional, but not necessarily illegal. I would think that expressing that you don’t believe in a judeo-christian god in a native american nation wouldn’t be that surprising.

  • 30 Chris // Jul 29, 2010 at 9:36 AM

    Not to defend the way the cops acted, but that wasn’t a road and a sidewalk, that was a parking lot. I would be very surprised (and a bit pissed) if that was public property. They probably had another quarter of a mile to go to get to public land across the street.

    Its a bit misleading, its not Hard Rock Cafe, its Hard Rock Casino and it is a huge area. The cops didn’t act the way they should, but they had every right to kick them out and arrest them after arguing with them about public property every 100ft.

    Also whats up with the edit? Suddenly some guy is being arrested but they didn’t show why? Yea the cop said stuff he shouldn’t have but these guys should have been arrested for trespassing 45 seconds into the video.

  • 31 SteelToad // Jul 29, 2010 at 10:53 AM

    It’s interesting that they didn’t want to give the unedited tape to the media, especially as they want to get their word out

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MXqlslo23o

  • 32 Rail Car Fan // Jul 29, 2010 at 1:19 PM

    I find the following “Johnny Law” comment to be quite interesting.. as well as being insightful as to some Cops way of thinking when it comes to enforcing existing laws.

    (JL): “Those guys needed to GO TO JAIL because they required the officers to WASTE way too much TIME on them.”

    I would think they would be arrested for trespassing (if in fact they were.. I wasn’t there so I don’t know) and not under the obscure and hardly used “Cop Time Wasting” law.

    Is it possible (in some Cops mind), that it’s now a crime if someone wastes their time! I never realized there was such a law in existence, ie: “Cop Time Wasting”.. if one really exists.

    Seeing I’m the first one here to admit I don’t know each and every law in existence throughout the good old U.S., I wonder if “Johnny Law” could tell me if this is a state law only.. or if it’s a Federal law too!!?

    If “Cop Time Wasting” is a law, then I need to remember the next time I need directions in a city I’ve never been to, to NOT ask a Cop for directions.. because under some Cops theory of law enforcement “wasting their time” (and as a example: asking for directions when one is lost), is now a arrestable offense.

    I’m NOT picking on you “JL”.. I’m just using the statement you made.. and taking it to what could be considered a logical conclusion.. and thus the questions.

    If I’m wrong (and there is such a thing as a “Cop Time Wasting” law), I’ll be the first one here to say “sorry” and publicly apologize.

    You’re the Cop on the beat here “JL”.. what say you?

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  • 33 Johnny Law // Jul 29, 2010 at 8:05 PM

    Hmmm I’m sorry Rail Car. Didn’t mean to confuse you. I guess I should have known you wouldn’t understand. Let me clarify by modifying my statement”

    “Those guys needed to GO TO JAIL for trespassing because they disregarded multiple lawful orders by the officers to leave the property.”

    There. Feel better now? I hope it is all clear now but just let me know if I need to break it down further for you.

    Just to add to it, since they refused multiple orders and stood there trying to play sidewalk lawyer, they wasted the time of all the officers on scene and they deserved to go to jail (for trespassing).

  • 34 Pinandpuller // Jul 30, 2010 at 1:04 AM

    Rail Car Fan

    I guess mr. athiest cop wasn’t on time and a half lol.

    I think along with cameras grafted on cop’s heads they need a shot clock as it were. If you let the clock run out before you obey the “lawful order” you get arrested. At least there would be an objective standard independent of the cop’s mood.

  • 35 J // Jul 30, 2010 at 9:04 AM

    While I agree that it was wrong to kick them off… I wonder why they were wasting their time there anyway. Certainly there are more useful things to do with their time, especially as Christians? Perhaps feed the homeless? That’s something Christ would’ve done.

  • 36 Rob Molecule // Jul 30, 2010 at 11:03 AM

    After finally watching that videio, the bald cop seemed alright. I agree with the cop on religion but I guess it should mostly be kept to himself while on the job. Although I have to wonder what provoked his response since there were edits right at those points.

  • 37 Matthew Lane // Aug 4, 2010 at 12:20 AM

    I’m both a photographer & an Atheist & i agree with the cops on this one.

    the polices main job is to keep the peace & athiests showing up at a christian event to protest is not keeping the peace. Same goes if the situation was reversed.

    The were not moved because they had camera, they were moved on for trespassing.

  • 38 Angelo // Aug 4, 2010 at 1:18 AM

    I was thinking the same thing a lot of other people have said at first: hey it’s private property, they can move ‘em.

    But after further consideration, I think Carlos is right:

    1) Did the owners of the property request the removal?

    2) Did they wish to press charges?

    Those are really the only two things that matter. And by the way, isn’t it actually COOLER when Christians are protesting your band?

    This whole thing seems like the cop just didn’t like the protesters, not that the property owners cared.
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  • 39 Phil // Aug 4, 2010 at 6:40 PM

    I have no problem with the cop responding to him when he told him he was going to hell. He was simply saying that his taunts had no effect. As to freedom of speech, you have freedom of speech on public and on your land. You have no right to trespass on other people’s land. That violates their rights as property owners. This cop acted in-line with the law. I happen to know these idiots from years ago – there is a lot more to the story. They constantly trespass, urinate on soldier’s graves, show-up and harass grieving families, harass others at their places of business and homes. You have freedom of speech, but your rights cannot erode those rights of others.

  • 40 Benjamin Geiger // Aug 4, 2010 at 9:27 PM

    I personally see nothing illegal about what Ofc. Goff did. Stupid, perhaps.

    Ofc. Allen, however, needs to write the Constitution by hand a hundred times, then someone needs to take that paper, roll it up, and smack him over the head with it. Then he needs to take a refresher course on photography law.

    And I’m curious about the video editing. Was it simply for time? Is the unedited video available anywhere?
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  • 41 Ishmael // Aug 15, 2010 at 1:40 AM

    There’s a new wrinkle in the Bernalillo County Sheriff’s Department. The BC Deputies Assn. union is talking of holding a “no-confidence” vote on BC Sheriff Manny Gonzales over alleged preferential treatment of his brother BCSO Lt. James Gonzales by the Sheriff. More on the story at this link:

    http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S1698158.shtml?cat=500

    Also, there’s THIS story about Sandoval County Sheriff John Paul Trujillo getting pulled over by NM state police a few days ago for speeding and running a red light.

    http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S1697480.shtml?cat=500

    BCSO polices the South Valley, where I used to live for a time and was a hotbed of heroin dealers.
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  • 42 Ishmael // Aug 15, 2010 at 1:46 AM

    I forgot to add, There’s also THIS story about Valencia County Sheriff Rene Rivera’s recent purchase of 3 custom trucks in Dallas.

    http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S1684133.shtml?cat=0
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