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		<title>By: Ariel</title>
		<link>http://carlosmiller.com/2010/05/25/welcome-to-america-now-step-inside-the-jail-cell/#comment-35525</link>
		<dc:creator>Ariel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 23:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is just a late add for the facts: neither McVeigh nor Nichols were Christian Fundies. Sorry, but they weren&#039;t. They had left that long before the OK bombing, long, long before. In fact, McVeigh ranted about how much he hated Christianity.

It is one on of the most tedious, incorrect claims about them.

And, no, I&#039;m not a Christian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is just a late add for the facts: neither McVeigh nor Nichols were Christian Fundies. Sorry, but they weren&#8217;t. They had left that long before the OK bombing, long, long before. In fact, McVeigh ranted about how much he hated Christianity.</p>
<p>It is one on of the most tedious, incorrect claims about them.</p>
<p>And, no, I&#8217;m not a Christian</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://carlosmiller.com/2010/05/25/welcome-to-america-now-step-inside-the-jail-cell/#comment-29337</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 23:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if this is real, it is edited.  And not just trivially.  There is a pretty obvious edit between where he says &quot;what are you going to do, shoot me&quot; and where they are accusing him of threatening them.  What was edited out I wonder?  

They can ask all the detailed questions they want.  My objection is primarily that it is insane and counterproductive to arrest someone who doesn&#039;t need arresting.  Suppose they held this guy for a few hours even, and then kicked him loose.  Still mighta made youtube, would have been a LOT less devastating.  Same with Peter Watts, if they had not pressed charges, me and a lot of Americans who are going to hate our country for doing this crap would never have heard of it.  In the case of Watts, they maced him, punched him, dropped him off on foot without his stuff in a storm to walk home.  Why did they need to follow through by prosecuting him for contempt-of-cop?  

But ultimately, this video is NOT verified.  It is way too compact.  You have border agents giving explanations for what they are doing.  You have nearly perfect audio, not like ANY covert recording I have ever heard before.  You have an almost perfect story line.  There should be 50 border crossing recordings that aren&#039;t nearly this compelling for every one that is this good.

I say don&#039;t be pulled in by garbage.  There is LOTS of pure real stuff on this blog and other places.  Let&#039;s make this one wait until somebody gives something even in the ball park of credibility to it.  Even a STORY about what happened next would be good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if this is real, it is edited.  And not just trivially.  There is a pretty obvious edit between where he says &#8220;what are you going to do, shoot me&#8221; and where they are accusing him of threatening them.  What was edited out I wonder?  </p>
<p>They can ask all the detailed questions they want.  My objection is primarily that it is insane and counterproductive to arrest someone who doesn&#8217;t need arresting.  Suppose they held this guy for a few hours even, and then kicked him loose.  Still mighta made youtube, would have been a LOT less devastating.  Same with Peter Watts, if they had not pressed charges, me and a lot of Americans who are going to hate our country for doing this crap would never have heard of it.  In the case of Watts, they maced him, punched him, dropped him off on foot without his stuff in a storm to walk home.  Why did they need to follow through by prosecuting him for contempt-of-cop?  </p>
<p>But ultimately, this video is NOT verified.  It is way too compact.  You have border agents giving explanations for what they are doing.  You have nearly perfect audio, not like ANY covert recording I have ever heard before.  You have an almost perfect story line.  There should be 50 border crossing recordings that aren&#8217;t nearly this compelling for every one that is this good.</p>
<p>I say don&#8217;t be pulled in by garbage.  There is LOTS of pure real stuff on this blog and other places.  Let&#8217;s make this one wait until somebody gives something even in the ball park of credibility to it.  Even a STORY about what happened next would be good.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 03:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve lived on a border? So? I&#039;ve lived on a border too. I&#039;ve had my vehicle completely taken apart. But the officers at that time didn&#039;t expect me to kiss their ass. And I don&#039;t care if they are particularly friendly to me. Not that kissing ass is a sign of friendliness. The only thing which is important is that they do their job. You know, be professional. Fact is, border officials are the most corrupt people on this planet. The illegal shit that crosses borders couldn&#039;t cross without them. But then again if all the border agents are as stupid as these guys that they are going to take several hours out of their day and many thousands of dollars out of the system to fuck with innocent people like this, well, you don&#039;t have border security do you? They do not stop several terrorists a day with these &quot;methods&quot;. &quot;I&#039;m going shopping.&quot; Wow what a dick! How suspicious! Obviously a terrorism suspect. Yeah I&#039;m sure the Israelis have time to let some emotionally stunted freak&#039;s egos dictate who should be stopped at a border.  How effective. You&#039;re slave and will never understand that one aspect of freedom is not having to kiss someone&#039;s ass. I always wonder about you obedient drones who unquestioningly submit to any humiliation in order to just get along in life. But hey, I don&#039;t like to kiss a stranger&#039;s ass so it is a bit difficult to understand your point of view. And you probably still don&#039;t see what snarky dicks these &quot;officers&quot; are. Great attitude you got there: hey everybody everywhere get down and keep your tail between your legs. Get ready Americans, this is the true nature of your freedom. Snarky bureaucrats answerable to no one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve lived on a border? So? I&#8217;ve lived on a border too. I&#8217;ve had my vehicle completely taken apart. But the officers at that time didn&#8217;t expect me to kiss their ass. And I don&#8217;t care if they are particularly friendly to me. Not that kissing ass is a sign of friendliness. The only thing which is important is that they do their job. You know, be professional. Fact is, border officials are the most corrupt people on this planet. The illegal shit that crosses borders couldn&#8217;t cross without them. But then again if all the border agents are as stupid as these guys that they are going to take several hours out of their day and many thousands of dollars out of the system to fuck with innocent people like this, well, you don&#8217;t have border security do you? They do not stop several terrorists a day with these &#8220;methods&#8221;. &#8220;I&#8217;m going shopping.&#8221; Wow what a dick! How suspicious! Obviously a terrorism suspect. Yeah I&#8217;m sure the Israelis have time to let some emotionally stunted freak&#8217;s egos dictate who should be stopped at a border.  How effective. You&#8217;re slave and will never understand that one aspect of freedom is not having to kiss someone&#8217;s ass. I always wonder about you obedient drones who unquestioningly submit to any humiliation in order to just get along in life. But hey, I don&#8217;t like to kiss a stranger&#8217;s ass so it is a bit difficult to understand your point of view. And you probably still don&#8217;t see what snarky dicks these &#8220;officers&#8221; are. Great attitude you got there: hey everybody everywhere get down and keep your tail between your legs. Get ready Americans, this is the true nature of your freedom. Snarky bureaucrats answerable to no one.</p>
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		<title>By: Rance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 May 2010 17:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must be... Nah, I hate everyone equally. :)
.-= Rance´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/BinaryGravy/statuses/14659585451&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;BinaryGravy: RT @marklevinshow: Obama has authority to lead the oil spill recovery but he won’t b/c he doesn’t know what to do... http://bit.ly/b7ayfz&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must be&#8230; Nah, I hate everyone equally. <img src='http://carlosmiller.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
<span class="cluv"> Rance´s last blog ..<a href="http://twitter.com/BinaryGravy/statuses/14659585451" rel="nofollow">BinaryGravy: RT @marklevinshow: Obama has authority to lead the oil spill recovery but he won’t b/c he doesn’t know what to do&#8230; </a><a href="http://bit.ly/b7ayfz" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/b7ayfz</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://carlosmiller.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: gerald knight</title>
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		<dc:creator>gerald knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 May 2010 15:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>first off I thought MAYBE I SHOULDN&quot;T  POST THIS because I said that I was done, so forgive me  but that rant you went on about Islamic terrorist was very interesting  I&#039;m not a Muslin I don&#039;t even know one, I&#039;ve never even touched the Koran  but I had to LOL that your so well-versed on the subject but failed to mention that one of the worst acts of terrorism committed on this country was carried out by two  CHRISTIAN FUNDAMENTIST  remember these two   TIMOTHY McVEIGHT,  TERRY NICHOLS?   I know you dislike  facts because you hate to be lectured,   but when you go on spewing opinions about other hateful acts of terrorism you need to understand , we have home grown terrorist right here in this country carried out by two WASP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>first off I thought MAYBE I SHOULDN&#8221;T  POST THIS because I said that I was done, so forgive me  but that rant you went on about Islamic terrorist was very interesting  I&#8217;m not a Muslin I don&#8217;t even know one, I&#8217;ve never even touched the Koran  but I had to LOL that your so well-versed on the subject but failed to mention that one of the worst acts of terrorism committed on this country was carried out by two  CHRISTIAN FUNDAMENTIST  remember these two   TIMOTHY McVEIGHT,  TERRY NICHOLS?   I know you dislike  facts because you hate to be lectured,   but when you go on spewing opinions about other hateful acts of terrorism you need to understand , we have home grown terrorist right here in this country carried out by two WASP</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 May 2010 08:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rance, you&#039;re so racist that you don&#039;t know that you&#039;re being a racist, so stop being one.

Note: That was meant as a joke, as we need a little humor in this comment section. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rance, you&#8217;re so racist that you don&#8217;t know that you&#8217;re being a racist, so stop being one.</p>
<p>Note: That was meant as a joke, as we need a little humor in this comment section. <img src='http://carlosmiller.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: gerald knight</title>
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		<dc:creator>gerald knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 May 2010 02:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your considerably more educated than me?  no your very immature and you assume far too much, you don&#039;t even know me, your providing evidence to everyone reading your opinions that your quite foolish , you do need a lecture so  you stop embarrassing yourself, at any rate this is an website for sharing thoughts not trading insults, so get your parting insults and be gone I&#039;m done hearing from you sir.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your considerably more educated than me?  no your very immature and you assume far too much, you don&#8217;t even know me, your providing evidence to everyone reading your opinions that your quite foolish , you do need a lecture so  you stop embarrassing yourself, at any rate this is an website for sharing thoughts not trading insults, so get your parting insults and be gone I&#8217;m done hearing from you sir&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty Carr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rusty Carr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 May 2010 00:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect I&#039;m considerably better educated than you and PLEASE don&#039;t try to lecture me about the events during the cold war, I lived through that era.  I&#039;m first to admit that the US has made its fair share of mistakes on this planet, what I&#039;m not prepared to do is to sit by and let garbage like  &quot;...the government for the most part created the terriost crap...&quot; just float by without taking a shot.   That&#039;s pure out and out nonsense.  Islamic terrorism needs nothing more than another culture, that does not follow the precepts of the Koran, to break out and go beserko.  WE DID NOT CREATE ISLAMIC TERRORISM!!!  It is part and parcel to the whole Islamic experience.  And BTW, I&#039;m the first to admit that GWB probably WANTED to believe the CIA junk intelligence about WMDs in Iraq.  Finally, I&#039;m entitled to my OPINIONS just like anybody else here, you needn&#039;t act as though I&#039;ve spit on the Virgin Mary for expressing them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect I&#8217;m considerably better educated than you and PLEASE don&#8217;t try to lecture me about the events during the cold war, I lived through that era.  I&#8217;m first to admit that the US has made its fair share of mistakes on this planet, what I&#8217;m not prepared to do is to sit by and let garbage like  &#8220;&#8230;the government for the most part created the terriost crap&#8230;&#8221; just float by without taking a shot.   That&#8217;s pure out and out nonsense.  Islamic terrorism needs nothing more than another culture, that does not follow the precepts of the Koran, to break out and go beserko.  WE DID NOT CREATE ISLAMIC TERRORISM!!!  It is part and parcel to the whole Islamic experience.  And BTW, I&#8217;m the first to admit that GWB probably WANTED to believe the CIA junk intelligence about WMDs in Iraq.  Finally, I&#8217;m entitled to my OPINIONS just like anybody else here, you needn&#8217;t act as though I&#8217;ve spit on the Virgin Mary for expressing them.</p>
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		<title>By: Rance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 May 2010 00:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LMAO! You&#039;re unbelievable! There was NOTHING racist about his comment at all... What a weak, and misplaced, attempt at playing the race card. 

Pathetic dude... Shameless and pathetic...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LMAO! You&#8217;re unbelievable! There was NOTHING racist about his comment at all&#8230; What a weak, and misplaced, attempt at playing the race card. </p>
<p>Pathetic dude&#8230; Shameless and pathetic&#8230;</p>
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