Comments on: Federal court reins in use of Tasers http://carlosmiller.com/2009/12/31/federal-court-reigns-in-use-of-tasers/ It's a First Amendment Right Sun, 01 Aug 2010 05:23:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=2251 By: News That Matters – January 6, 2010 – The Homeland Security Edition | News That Matters http://carlosmiller.com/2009/12/31/federal-court-reigns-in-use-of-tasers/#comment-23073 News That Matters – January 6, 2010 – The Homeland Security Edition | News That Matters Thu, 29 Apr 2010 20:23:08 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=9224#comment-23073 [...] Read More [...] [...] Read More [...]

]]> By: joe http://carlosmiller.com/2009/12/31/federal-court-reigns-in-use-of-tasers/#comment-18594 joe Thu, 14 Jan 2010 01:10:19 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=9224#comment-18594 I don't see any reason to tase anyone if you don't feel threatened. Even with a stupid warning. Saying, "If you don't stop being upset I'm going to electrocute you" isn't a good enough reason to electrocute somebody. I don’t see any reason to tase anyone if you don’t feel threatened. Even with a stupid warning. Saying, “If you don’t stop being upset I’m going to electrocute you” isn’t a good enough reason to electrocute somebody.

]]> By: Carlos Miller http://carlosmiller.com/2009/12/31/federal-court-reigns-in-use-of-tasers/#comment-18529 Carlos Miller Sun, 10 Jan 2010 18:28:51 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=9224#comment-18529 Craig, You're right. It's been fixed. Thanks. Craig,

You’re right. It’s been fixed. Thanks.

]]> By: Craig http://carlosmiller.com/2009/12/31/federal-court-reigns-in-use-of-tasers/#comment-18526 Craig Sun, 10 Jan 2010 09:20:17 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=9224#comment-18526 I enjoy this site and agree with you...You might, however retitle this article... You use the wrong verb..reign, the verb you use, means to rule..a king reigns...rein...means to control...like a reins used to ride a horse..Rein in..is to bring under control or hinder the free "unrestrained" use. Thanks...Photography is not a crime...it is tool to fight tyranny. Thanks I enjoy this site and agree with you…You might, however retitle this article…

You use the wrong verb..reign, the verb you use, means to rule..a king reigns…rein…means to control…like a reins used to ride a horse..Rein in..is to bring under control or hinder the free “unrestrained” use.

Thanks…Photography is not a crime…it is tool to fight tyranny. Thanks

]]> By: Pinandpuller http://carlosmiller.com/2009/12/31/federal-court-reigns-in-use-of-tasers/#comment-18395 Pinandpuller Mon, 04 Jan 2010 08:06:21 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=9224#comment-18395 A cop should take a few minutes to stretch before a taserin' so he doesn't pull a muscle. A cop should take a few minutes to stretch before a taserin' so he doesn't pull a muscle.

]]> By: Annette http://carlosmiller.com/2009/12/31/federal-court-reigns-in-use-of-tasers/#comment-18386 Annette Sun, 03 Jan 2010 21:46:53 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=9224#comment-18386 Good points, I think I will definitely subscribe!<a href="http://www.day2pill.com" rel="nofollow">:)</a>. I'll go and read some more! Good points, I think I will definitely subscribe! :) . I’ll go and read some more!

]]> By: Johnny Law http://carlosmiller.com/2009/12/31/federal-court-reigns-in-use-of-tasers/#comment-18384 Johnny Law Sun, 03 Jan 2010 10:42:47 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=9224#comment-18384 I am flattered that you guys are eagerly awaiting my condemnation of this case. I'm sorry to disappoint you but I think the 9th Circuit decision is pretty reasonable. From reading the facts of the case, it sounds like the officer jumped the gun and tased the driver before he was an actual threat. If you read the decision, the court references a previous taser case (Draper v. Reynolds) and reiterates that an officer can taser an aggressive unarmed individual on a traffic stop as long as the officer can articulate the threat. In the case of Draper, the officer gave multiple commands, had an extended argumentative conversation with Draper, and Draper approached the officer in an aggressive manner. The court had no problem with that tasing and the case sounded perfectly reasonable to me. If I were a police supervisor reviewing the case in question (Bryan v. McPherson) I would recommend that the officer used the taser improperly. Would this stop still have eventually ended in a taser if the officer had taken it slower? Probably. Bryan sounds like an idiot who was acting like a child. Crying after a speeding ticket? Jumping out of a car on a traffic stop and beating on himself? Odds are that even if the officer had taken the time to give him some directions and warned that he faced getting taser, Bryan would have continued to act the fool and caused things to escalate. As it is, we will never know for sure because the officer rushed things. Just my 2 cents. I am flattered that you guys are eagerly awaiting my condemnation of this case. I'm sorry to disappoint you but I think the 9th Circuit decision is pretty reasonable. From reading the facts of the case, it sounds like the officer jumped the gun and tased the driver before he was an actual threat.

If you read the decision, the court references a previous taser case (Draper v. Reynolds) and reiterates that an officer can taser an aggressive unarmed individual on a traffic stop as long as the officer can articulate the threat. In the case of Draper, the officer gave multiple commands, had an extended argumentative conversation with Draper, and Draper approached the officer in an aggressive manner. The court had no problem with that tasing and the case sounded perfectly reasonable to me.

If I were a police supervisor reviewing the case in question (Bryan v. McPherson) I would recommend that the officer used the taser improperly. Would this stop still have eventually ended in a taser if the officer had taken it slower? Probably. Bryan sounds like an idiot who was acting like a child. Crying after a speeding ticket? Jumping out of a car on a traffic stop and beating on himself? Odds are that even if the officer had taken the time to give him some directions and warned that he faced getting taser, Bryan would have continued to act the fool and caused things to escalate. As it is, we will never know for sure because the officer rushed things.

Just my 2 cents.

]]> By: Dan http://carlosmiller.com/2009/12/31/federal-court-reigns-in-use-of-tasers/#comment-18382 Dan Sun, 03 Jan 2010 05:23:39 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=9224#comment-18382 The good news is that at least this judge is throwing the weight of his office into stopping this. Though I am certain some may not agree, judges are generally lagging indicators of political opinion. Thus, this is a positive sign. The good news is that at least this judge is throwing the weight of his office into stopping this. Though I am certain some may not agree, judges are generally lagging indicators of political opinion. Thus, this is a positive sign.

]]> By: MichaelK42 http://carlosmiller.com/2009/12/31/federal-court-reigns-in-use-of-tasers/#comment-18381 MichaelK42 Sun, 03 Jan 2010 03:04:20 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=9224#comment-18381 I'm surprised JL hasn't shown up to rant already. It must be taking a while to prepare. I'm surprised JL hasn't shown up to rant already. It must be taking a while to prepare.

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