Comments on: NYPD officer harasses videographer in front of UN building http://carlosmiller.com/2009/12/17/nypd-officer-harasses-videographer-in-front-of-un-building/ It's a First Amendment Right Sun, 26 Jun 2011 02:03:25 +0000 hourly 1 By: Movie Soundtracks On CD http://carlosmiller.com/2009/12/17/nypd-officer-harasses-videographer-in-front-of-un-building/#comment-27331 Movie Soundtracks On CD Wed, 26 May 2010 07:15:55 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=9063#comment-27331 Following searching Google I discovered your site. I think both are great and I is going to be coming back again to you and them in the future. Thanks Following searching Google I discovered your site. I think both are great and I is going to be coming back again to you and them in the future. Thanks

]]> By: Dan http://carlosmiller.com/2009/12/17/nypd-officer-harasses-videographer-in-front-of-un-building/#comment-17996 Dan Fri, 18 Dec 2009 06:33:09 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=9063#comment-17996 This is over-reactive hysteria at its worst. Cops are ordered to be vigilant (head on a swivel) for "anything" suspicious and people with cameras are suspects because terrorists "might" take photographs so they can plan to blow shit up. Although probably not a popular concept here, I don't place blame on the individual officer. Though, there are those that do deserve individual blame. These confrontations are not imperatives driven by statute, moral positions or by public safety; they are the results of policies fueled by a shared public fear. It is a witch hunt, similar to the group-pedophilia indictments, convictions and aftermath of Bakersfield, CA (circa 1980's), which spread like a Crichton-inspired plague across our nation. It is wrong, illegal and (of more import and concern) extremely detrimental to the common good, which is (of course) why the Constitution exists. The enforcement arm of our society needs to be trained to recognize the root-causes of and blueprints of hysteria and how best to diffuse it. Further, we need to criminalize the acts of zealots that use public hysteria as a platform/forum to advance their cause(s) - with (of course) the appropriate application of Mens Rea to acts, which has sooooo been diluted lately. This is over-reactive hysteria at its worst.

Cops are ordered to be vigilant (head on a swivel) for “anything” suspicious and people with cameras are suspects because terrorists “might” take photographs so they can plan to blow shit up. Although probably not a popular concept here, I don’t place blame on the individual officer. Though, there are those that do deserve individual blame.

These confrontations are not imperatives driven by statute, moral positions or by public safety; they are the results of policies fueled by a shared public fear.

It is a witch hunt, similar to the group-pedophilia indictments, convictions and aftermath of Bakersfield, CA (circa 1980′s), which spread like a Crichton-inspired plague across our nation.

It is wrong, illegal and (of more import and concern) extremely detrimental to the common good, which is (of course) why the Constitution exists.

The enforcement arm of our society needs to be trained to recognize the root-causes of and blueprints of hysteria and how best to diffuse it.

Further, we need to criminalize the acts of zealots that use public hysteria as a platform/forum to advance their cause(s) – with (of course) the appropriate application of Mens Rea to acts, which has sooooo been diluted lately.

]]> By: MrBentor http://carlosmiller.com/2009/12/17/nypd-officer-harasses-videographer-in-front-of-un-building/#comment-17995 MrBentor Fri, 18 Dec 2009 06:04:08 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=9063#comment-17995 Uh... The united nations is not "federal property" and if she tried to claim it was federal property then she is either a dufus or is lying. Even if it was "federal property" it isn't as we all know, not illegal. Make her show you her commission card... if NY law requires such... Here if you demand it, the officer is required to display it to you. Without it you have reason to ignore and resist the officer. Uh… The united nations is not “federal property” and if she tried to claim it was federal property then she is either a dufus or is lying. Even if it was “federal property” it isn’t as we all know, not illegal.

Make her show you her commission card… if NY law requires such… Here if you demand it, the officer is required to display it to you. Without it you have reason to ignore and resist the officer.

]]> By: Frank Palmer http://carlosmiller.com/2009/12/17/nypd-officer-harasses-videographer-in-front-of-un-building/#comment-17994 Frank Palmer Fri, 18 Dec 2009 05:41:10 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=9063#comment-17994 From: http://www.youtube.com/user/cholo2les August 20, 2009 | 638 views CORRECTION I was detained for about an hour and a half not two hours for taking pictures of nypd on public property. there is no law stopping me from taking pictures in a public place. they said that I violated some law in the "patriot act" and they couldn't tell me which one I was violating. After about 45 minutes I began to ask the officer where are the secret service and the officer said they were coming, they never did come. they only let me go after I showed the pictures to some nypd higher ups From:
http://www.youtube.com/user/cholo2les

August 20, 2009 | 638 views
CORRECTION I was detained for about an hour and a half not two hours for taking pictures of nypd on public property. there is no law stopping me from taking pictures in a public place. they said that I violated some law in the “patriot act” and they couldn’t tell me which one I was violating. After about 45 minutes I began to ask the officer where are the secret service and the officer said they were coming, they never did come. they only let me go after I showed the pictures to some nypd higher ups

]]> By: JR http://carlosmiller.com/2009/12/17/nypd-officer-harasses-videographer-in-front-of-un-building/#comment-17993 JR Fri, 18 Dec 2009 04:35:57 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=9063#comment-17993 Creepy that attitude the cop gives when the cameraman sites constitution. "Yeah right" as if it means nothing to her. Creepy that attitude the cop gives when the cameraman sites constitution. “Yeah right” as if it means nothing to her.

]]> By: Workingindust http://carlosmiller.com/2009/12/17/nypd-officer-harasses-videographer-in-front-of-un-building/#comment-17991 Workingindust Fri, 18 Dec 2009 03:19:39 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=9063#comment-17991 Quoting from a comment I read somewhere yesterday - "America, you embarass me daily" Frozen Zone my ass - More like his frozen brain Quoting from a comment I read somewhere yesterday –

“America, you embarass me daily”

Frozen Zone my ass – More like his frozen brain

]]> By: Jay http://carlosmiller.com/2009/12/17/nypd-officer-harasses-videographer-in-front-of-un-building/#comment-17990 Jay Fri, 18 Dec 2009 02:53:54 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=9063#comment-17990 I love how all of these cops who don't know each other come up with the same bullshit "reasons" why photography isn't allowed. And when I say "love," I'm really just singing the yet to be written "Groundhog Day" song. I love how all of these cops who don’t know each other come up with the same bullshit “reasons” why photography isn’t allowed. And when I say “love,” I’m really just singing the yet to be written “Groundhog Day” song.

]]> By: LC http://carlosmiller.com/2009/12/17/nypd-officer-harasses-videographer-in-front-of-un-building/#comment-17980 LC Fri, 18 Dec 2009 01:01:27 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=9063#comment-17980 Almost forgot, the page on "War on Photography" also includes links to an attorney site that provides legal advice to photographers, including a wallet size card on photographers rights. The link: http://www.krages.com/phoright.htm and the wallet card can be found here: http://www.krages.com/ThePhotographersRight.pdf KNOW YOUR RIGHTS! http://www.flexyourrights.org/ Almost forgot, the page on “War on Photography” also includes links to an attorney site that provides legal advice to photographers, including a wallet size card on photographers rights.
The link:
http://www.krages.com/phoright.htm
and the wallet card can be found here:
http://www.krages.com/ThePhotographersRight.pdf

KNOW YOUR RIGHTS!
http://www.flexyourrights.org/

]]> By: LC http://carlosmiller.com/2009/12/17/nypd-officer-harasses-videographer-in-front-of-un-building/#comment-17978 LC Fri, 18 Dec 2009 00:56:51 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=9063#comment-17978 The idea that somehow photography aids or assists terrorists in planning or plotting attacks is at best ridiculous and at worst lunacy. This attitude towards photography is a "movie plot threat" a term which was originally coined by International Security Expert and author Bruce Schenier, which maintains a blog discussing computer and global security issues here: On the ridiculous notion of "Movie Plot Threats": http://www.schneier.com/essay-087.html The 9/11 attackers didn't photograph anything, and neither did any of the terrorists who committed any of the other attacks in Europe. The interesting article on this here: "The War on Photography" http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/jun/05/news.terrorism What scares me is the broadening power of police, and government. We should not allow our civil rights to be eroded. Here's a presentation by a criminal defence attorney on why you should never talk to the police. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc The idea that somehow photography aids or assists terrorists in planning or plotting attacks is at best ridiculous and at worst lunacy. This attitude towards photography is a “movie plot threat” a term which was originally coined by International Security Expert and author Bruce Schenier, which maintains a blog discussing computer and global security issues here:

On the ridiculous notion of “Movie Plot Threats”:
http://www.schneier.com/essay-087.html

The 9/11 attackers didn’t photograph anything, and neither did any of the terrorists who committed any of the other attacks in Europe.

The interesting article on this here:
“The War on Photography”

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/jun/05/news.terrorism

What scares me is the broadening power of police, and government. We should not allow our civil rights to be eroded.

Here’s a presentation by a criminal defence attorney on why you should never talk to the police.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

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