Comments on: Facebook photos land Alabama deputy in hot water http://carlosmiller.com/2009/11/25/facebook-photos-land-alabama-deputy-in-hot-water/ It's a First Amendment Right Sun, 26 Jun 2011 02:03:25 +0000 hourly 1 By: Johnny Law http://carlosmiller.com/2009/11/25/facebook-photos-land-alabama-deputy-in-hot-water/#comment-17366 Johnny Law Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:43:27 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=8823#comment-17366 Carlos, I'm impressed. Of course you have always been consistent on issues regarding photography. I agree that the pictures were off-duty and didn't hurt anyone so what's the big deal? It looks like Sarah wants his head on a platter for it though. Talk about a hater, geez. Carlos, I’m impressed. Of course you have always been consistent on issues regarding photography.

I agree that the pictures were off-duty and didn’t hurt anyone so what’s the big deal?

It looks like Sarah wants his head on a platter for it though. Talk about a hater, geez.

]]> By: Rob Molecule http://carlosmiller.com/2009/11/25/facebook-photos-land-alabama-deputy-in-hot-water/#comment-17357 Rob Molecule Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:52:17 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=8823#comment-17357 He shouldn't have involved the car. But I really don't care about this picture. He shouldn’t have involved the car. But I really don’t care about this picture.

]]> By: Charles U. Farley http://carlosmiller.com/2009/11/25/facebook-photos-land-alabama-deputy-in-hot-water/#comment-17353 Charles U. Farley Thu, 26 Nov 2009 02:51:50 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=8823#comment-17353 Is this an example of our society beliefs and taboos? Sex is dirty and bad, so posing a pretty woman in a provocative way is a fireable offense. However violence is OK, and tasering, beating and abusing suspects is usually dismissed as necessary force or the suspect "Had it coming". Just look at the movies. It is OK to show violence, people being shot, murdered etc., and a movie will likely get a PG rating. But, show some nudity, or sex and it becomes PG-13, R or NC-17. Just a point to ponder. Charles Is this an example of our society beliefs and taboos? Sex is dirty and bad, so posing a pretty woman in a provocative way is a fireable offense. However violence is OK, and tasering, beating and abusing suspects is usually dismissed as necessary force or the suspect “Had it coming”.

Just look at the movies. It is OK to show violence, people being shot, murdered etc., and a movie will likely get a PG rating. But, show some nudity, or sex and it becomes PG-13, R or NC-17.

Just a point to ponder.

Charles

]]> By: Michaelk42 http://carlosmiller.com/2009/11/25/facebook-photos-land-alabama-deputy-in-hot-water/#comment-17350 Michaelk42 Thu, 26 Nov 2009 01:21:26 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=8823#comment-17350 Nobody and no thing is getting hurt in any way... I mean what, are they afraid the paint on the car would get scratched? Nobody and no thing is getting hurt in any way… I mean what, are they afraid the paint on the car would get scratched?

]]> By: Carlos Miller http://carlosmiller.com/2009/11/25/facebook-photos-land-alabama-deputy-in-hot-water/#comment-17347 Carlos Miller Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:32:47 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=8823#comment-17347 Wow, here I am in a debate where I am defending the cop. Johnny Law, I hope you're watching. For all we know, this party took place at the deputy's house, so maybe the car just happened to be there. I still don't see the connection between this incident and all those sex crimes you listed. All we're seeing here is photos of people having fun. The whole point of this blog is to prove that photography is not as dangerous as some people like to believe. Cops have as much right to take pictures as we do. Perhaps it was unprofessional for him to allow the squad car to be used as a prop, but I am not about to start calling him a sexual offender because of it. Wow, here I am in a debate where I am defending the cop.

Johnny Law, I hope you’re watching.

For all we know, this party took place at the deputy’s house, so maybe the car just happened to be there.

I still don’t see the connection between this incident and all those sex crimes you listed.

All we’re seeing here is photos of people having fun.

The whole point of this blog is to prove that photography is not as dangerous as some people like to believe.

Cops have as much right to take pictures as we do.

Perhaps it was unprofessional for him to allow the squad car to be used as a prop, but I am not about to start calling him a sexual offender because of it.

]]> By: Sara http://carlosmiller.com/2009/11/25/facebook-photos-land-alabama-deputy-in-hot-water/#comment-17346 Sara Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:02:43 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=8823#comment-17346 I know, it only looks unprofessional because he brought city property into the picture. The connection is though, when dealing with cops it's always a slippery slope. They seem to have a problem knowing where the line is. History has proven that we can't trust them and should always question their motives. Why bring the pigmobile to the party in the first place? He's off duty so why not take his own car? He probably brought it because the pigmobile represents his power and authority. A little reminder to all that he's a cop 24/7, even at some stupid party. He can run red lights in it, and he can lie, handcuff you and throw you in the back for any number of things, including contempt of cop. I think it *might be* telling that he wanted pics of the women submitting provocatively on top of "his" police car. Sure I could be reading too much into this but the predominant theory is that sex crimes are more about power and control then lust. Not surprising since we know far too many cops "get off", both literally and figuratively**, on their authority over others. So I don't think we should take any unprofessional behavior from them lightly. One thing's for sure, he's not very bright if he couldn't forsee that this would get him into trouble. And another thing. This doesn't look like a sober Halloween party. A hundred bucks says mr. "above the law" piggy drove home drunk. **the cases of officer-involved sexual misconduct tracked in the first 4 days of November includes: A Calcasieu Parish Louisiana deputy was fired after he was charged with sexual battery and forcible rape of a juvenile, no other details were released pending an ongoing investigation. An Adams Mass. police officer was arrested for viewing child pornography on a government computer in the department’s evidence room. An Alabama State trooper has been indicted for allegedly sexually abusing female passenger of a car belonging to the person driving her home was arrested on outstanding warrants. The officer drove her down a dirt road and began to molest her, though he claims it was consensual. An Ocoee Florida police officer with an apparent penchant for spanking women who was recently sentenced to probation for pulling pants off an unwilling victim and spanking her a dozen times is now seeking to cut that probation short early. A Jefferson Parish Louisiana deputy was arrested on rape charges for allegedly forcing a woman to perform an unspecified sexual act on him under threat of being jailed after a traffic stop arrest. A Grand Haven Michigan police officer was sentenced to 60 days in jail and a $645 fine for demanding oral sex from at least 2 women under threat of arrest. A Saint Charles Missouri deputy was sentenced to probation in a plea deal over charges that he solicited sex from a female DUI suspect in exchange for looking the other way over drug charges. A Rock County Wisconsin deputy was arrested for allegedly sexually assaulting an 18-year-old girl at Halloween party where a number of teens had been drinking alcohol. A Tuskegee University Alabama police officer has been indicted for conspircy to commit rape and a count of conspiracy to commit sodomy of a 15-year-old girl who was allegedly raped by a second officer who was arrested a few weeks previous. A Winters California police officer was arrested at work on charges of lewd acts with a child for allegedly molesting a 14 or 15-year-old child. Hanover Township New Jersey police are facing a lawsuit filed on behalf of a teenager claiming that police were aware that one of their officers was molesting her since he had bragged about doing it to other officers until his wife found out about it. A Harlingen Texas police officer has been suspended while under investigation over allegations that he sexually assaulted a teenage girl in a low-income housing project several times. An FBI agent in West Virginia has plead guilty to pointing surveilance cameras at dressing rooms that were used by young girls at pageant, taping at least one of the girls without a top on. An Ex-Rawlins Wyoming police officer is now a wanted fugitive for allegedly sexually assaulting juveniles while he was a cop… The police say they don’t consider him a threat to the public at this time. http://www.injusticeeverywhere.com/?p=1279 I know, it only looks unprofessional because he brought city property into the picture. The connection is though, when dealing with cops it’s always a slippery slope. They seem to have a problem knowing where the line is. History has proven that we can’t trust them and should always question their motives. Why bring the pigmobile to the party in the first place? He’s off duty so why not take his own car? He probably brought it because the pigmobile represents his power and authority. A little reminder to all that he’s a cop 24/7, even at some stupid party. He can run red lights in it, and he can lie, handcuff you and throw you in the back for any number of things, including contempt of cop. I think it *might be* telling that he wanted pics of the women submitting provocatively on top of “his” police car. Sure I could be reading too much into this but the predominant theory is that sex crimes are more about power and control then lust. Not surprising since we know far too many cops “get off”, both literally and figuratively**, on their authority over others. So I don’t think we should take any unprofessional behavior from them lightly. One thing’s for sure, he’s not very bright if he couldn’t forsee that this would get him into trouble. And another thing. This doesn’t look like a sober Halloween party. A hundred bucks says mr. “above the law” piggy drove home drunk.

**the cases of officer-involved sexual misconduct tracked in the first 4 days of November includes:

A Calcasieu Parish Louisiana deputy was fired after he was charged with sexual battery and forcible rape of a juvenile, no other details were released pending an ongoing investigation.

An Adams Mass. police officer was arrested for viewing child pornography on a government computer in the department’s evidence room.

An Alabama State trooper has been indicted for allegedly sexually abusing female passenger of a car belonging to the person driving her home was arrested on outstanding warrants. The officer drove her down a dirt road and began to molest her, though he claims it was consensual.

An Ocoee Florida police officer with an apparent penchant for spanking women who was recently sentenced to probation for pulling pants off an unwilling victim and spanking her a dozen times is now seeking to cut that probation short early.

A Jefferson Parish Louisiana deputy was arrested on rape charges for allegedly forcing a woman to perform an unspecified sexual act on him under threat of being jailed after a traffic stop arrest.

A Grand Haven Michigan police officer was sentenced to 60 days in jail and a $645 fine for demanding oral sex from at least 2 women under threat of arrest.

A Saint Charles Missouri deputy was sentenced to probation in a plea deal over charges that he solicited sex from a female DUI suspect in exchange for looking the other way over drug charges.

A Rock County Wisconsin deputy was arrested for allegedly sexually assaulting an 18-year-old girl at Halloween party where a number of teens had been drinking alcohol.

A Tuskegee University Alabama police officer has been indicted for conspircy to commit rape and a count of conspiracy to commit sodomy of a 15-year-old girl who was allegedly raped by a second officer who was arrested a few weeks previous.

A Winters California police officer was arrested at work on charges of lewd acts with a child for allegedly molesting a 14 or 15-year-old child.

Hanover Township New Jersey police are facing a lawsuit filed on behalf of a teenager claiming that police were aware that one of their officers was molesting her since he had bragged about doing it to other officers until his wife found out about it.

A Harlingen Texas police officer has been suspended while under investigation over allegations that he sexually assaulted a teenage girl in a low-income housing project several times.

An FBI agent in West Virginia has plead guilty to pointing surveilance cameras at dressing rooms that were used by young girls at pageant, taping at least one of the girls without a top on.

An Ex-Rawlins Wyoming police officer is now a wanted fugitive for allegedly sexually assaulting juveniles while he was a cop… The police say they don’t consider him a threat to the public at this time.

http://www.injusticeeverywhere.com/?p=1279

]]> By: Carlos Miller http://carlosmiller.com/2009/11/25/facebook-photos-land-alabama-deputy-in-hot-water/#comment-17338 Carlos Miller Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:34:29 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=8823#comment-17338 Sara, I am familiar with the Scottsdale story. I just don't see a connection between what is happening here to what happened in that case. These photos show a willingness from the women to pose on the car. Nobody is accusing the cop of using his authority to make them do these things. They are probably his friends. All I see is this cop horsing around at a Halloween party. The Scottsdale cop is a criminal sexual offender. Sara,

I am familiar with the Scottsdale story.

I just don’t see a connection between what is happening here to what happened in that case.

These photos show a willingness from the women to pose on the car. Nobody is accusing the cop of using his authority to make them do these things.

They are probably his friends.

All I see is this cop horsing around at a Halloween party.

The Scottsdale cop is a criminal sexual offender.

]]> By: Sara http://carlosmiller.com/2009/11/25/facebook-photos-land-alabama-deputy-in-hot-water/#comment-17336 Sara Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:25:48 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=8823#comment-17336 Once he involved the cop car, he's acting as a cop to some degree. So maybe everybody was just having a good time here, but what about next time little piggy is bored and needs a laugh? It's disappointing that some here don't see the potential danger of piggy crossing the wires and combining his appetite and police work. Case in point, this little predator with a badge: Newly obtained documents reveal a former Scottsdale police officer may have illegally strip searched as many as 20 Valley women during his two years on the force. Chong Kim resigned in June 2008 amid allegations he threatened to arrest and jail a 19-year-old woman unless she stripped and showed him her private areas. When that complaint was made public, Scottsdale police admitted they had received a similar complaint against Kim in 2007. Internal Affairs investigated that complaint and exonerated Kim based on a lack of evidence. In a summary of the internal affairs report from 2008, investigators noted that Kim admitted lying to them when first confronted with the accusations. Kim then told investigators he coerced both of his accusers to show him their breasts and undergarments or face going to jail, the report said. Kim also said that he searched females inappropriately an estimated 15 to 20 times during his approximately two years as a police officer, the report said. In one instance, Kim admitted to using his tactics on a 16-year-old girl involved in a family fight, according to the report. In another situation, Kim described how he pulled over a couple in a car, the report said. Kim told investigators he put the driver's wife in the back of his patrol car for the sole purpose of getting her to expose herself to him, the report said. Scottsdale police said they looked into Kim's confessions but were unable to locate any additional victims. A police spokesman said the department also investigated possible criminal charges against Kim, but determine he did not violate any state laws. "Clearly this was an officer who was going way beyond his job description," said Ulises Ferragut, a defense attorney who has been involved in similar cases. The Maricopa County Attorney's office confirmed a case against Kim was never sent to their office. Public records obtained Tuesday show Kim was placed on the Brady List -- a list of officers with credibility issues. Scottsdale police confirmed they turned the investigation over to the FBI. The U. S. Department of Justice's civil rights division confirmed it has an open criminal investigation into this case. Last week, the Scottsdale city council approved a $315,000 payout to settle a civil lawsuit filed by the 19-year-old victim from June 2008. http://www.kpho.com/news/21705177/detail.html Once he involved the cop car, he’s acting as a cop to some degree. So maybe everybody was just having a good time here, but what about next time little piggy is bored and needs a laugh? It’s disappointing that some here don’t see the potential danger of piggy crossing the wires and combining his appetite and police work. Case in point, this little predator with a badge: Newly obtained documents reveal a former Scottsdale police officer may have illegally strip searched as many as 20 Valley women during his two years on the force.

Chong Kim resigned in June 2008 amid allegations he threatened to arrest and jail a 19-year-old woman unless she stripped and showed him her private areas.

When that complaint was made public, Scottsdale police admitted they had received a similar complaint against Kim in 2007. Internal Affairs investigated that complaint and exonerated Kim based on a lack of evidence.

In a summary of the internal affairs report from 2008, investigators noted that Kim admitted lying to them when first confronted with the accusations.

Kim then told investigators he coerced both of his accusers to show him their breasts and undergarments or face going to jail, the report said.

Kim also said that he searched females inappropriately an estimated 15 to 20 times during his approximately two years as a police officer, the report said.

In one instance, Kim admitted to using his tactics on a 16-year-old girl involved in a family fight, according to the report.

In another situation, Kim described how he pulled over a couple in a car, the report said. Kim told investigators he put the driver’s wife in the back of his patrol car for the sole purpose of getting her to expose herself to him, the report said.

Scottsdale police said they looked into Kim’s confessions but were unable to locate any additional victims.

A police spokesman said the department also investigated possible criminal charges against Kim, but determine he did not violate any state laws.

“Clearly this was an officer who was going way beyond his job description,” said Ulises Ferragut, a defense attorney who has been involved in similar cases.

The Maricopa County Attorney’s office confirmed a case against Kim was never sent to their office. Public records obtained Tuesday show Kim was placed on the Brady List — a list of officers with credibility issues.

Scottsdale police confirmed they turned the investigation over to the FBI. The U. S. Department of Justice’s civil rights division confirmed it has an open criminal investigation into this case.

Last week, the Scottsdale city council approved a $315,000 payout to settle a civil lawsuit filed by the 19-year-old victim from June 2008.

http://www.kpho.com/news/21705177/detail.html

]]> By: Sara http://carlosmiller.com/2009/11/25/facebook-photos-land-alabama-deputy-in-hot-water/#comment-17333 Sara Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:07:50 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=8823#comment-17333 These idiots are not just like you and I, they have the authority to take away your freedom and even your very life. Holier than thou's aside, given the fact that cops have a history of sodomizing people with broomsticks and now Taser guns, is it really a good idea to have them comfortable photographing folks with their backsides in the air? The fact is that cops seem to have a problem keeping it in their pants and following even basic social norms. If you give them an inch, they'll take a mile. So why encourage them? These idiots are not just like you and I, they have the authority to take away your freedom and even your very life. Holier than thou’s aside, given the fact that cops have a history of sodomizing people with broomsticks and now Taser guns, is it really a good idea to have them comfortable photographing folks with their backsides in the air? The fact is that cops seem to have a problem keeping it in their pants and following even basic social norms. If you give them an inch, they’ll take a mile. So why encourage them?

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