Here is some truth that backs up my statement, by a gentleman who grew up in the Nazi regime:
Hilmar von Campe is listed in the 1992 “International Who’s Who of Intellectuals” of the International Biographical Center in Cambridge, England. He is the author of “Defeating the Totalitarian Lie: A Former Hitler Youth Warns America.” Having grown up under the Nazis, he offers a unique perspective on the rise and fall of Nazi Germany. He warns that there are many similarities between the Nazi society and America of today.

I think your in the wrong line of work dude.
In fact, I question whether you are LE at all.

Whatever pathetic excuse or attack you formulate in your little world, cannot change what I see on the video.

The actions of the officer in the video above is an obvious felony assault.

Doesn’t matter what transpired off camera.

If you want respect…. which I know you do,
you need too earn it. The uniform does not make a man. His actions do.

Here’s the bottom line dude. You and the “brotherhood” deserve as much respect as you give.

They need to be rigesterd as bad cops and one little lie should put them in jail for 10 yrs!

They even say they are over us as citizens so let them take the heat and longer jail time than us due to the fact they think they are angels….

Complete liars is all they are, any other cop that would cover or go along with one should spend time in jail also. PERIOD!!!

There is no “Blue Wall of Silence”, people. Nothing to see here.

Move along, move along.

Each and every time I write something you expand it into something I didn’t write then argue against that, is this how you do your police work? Think, man, actually think and understand what is written. The ad hominem you use proves nothing.

If I were a martial arts expert I would have said so, but I have spent time in three different arts and yeah I know how hard it can be to take someone down, I’ve also seen how hard it can be on the street. I have also done it on the street. But you still don’t have to directly experience it to know it.

Brazilian JJ is an excellent one for you to be trained in, the art has done extremely well in the mixed martial arts category, mine were “classical” Japanese, and yes nothing is the same outside the dojo. So we do agree on another thing. Nope, not a pistol expert and haven’t fired one in 20 years, scored sharpshooter with the M-16 36 years ago this month, but I have likely fired a much bigger gun than you have, given you don’t allude to military experience. It had a 5 inch barrel and I wasn’t half bad. The rounds were a little heavy to carry around though. I keep a pump action for home protection.

That you question my childhood experiences just tells me you were likely raised as a sheltered middle or upper middle class white boy. I was poor. You probably went to the same elementary, middle, and high school with a lot of other good white boys. I didn’t, I had the privilege of going to 7 public schools, some of them actually safe . I wasn’t raised by my parents either but grandparents. Let me add more that your little sheltered childhood won’t help you understand. I was taught to shoot pool by Mafioso at 10, and by that time had been to every horse track in California (loved Del Mar, Pomona sucked, the rest I barely remember) and the Mexican border towns. And at 10, I told my grandparents I was done with the tracks so I took care of myself for up to three days at a time from then on. Gee that never happens, he must be lying. Such certainty you’ve lived every life. Sheesh. Talk about lack of experience and being sheltered.

I’ve alluded to my relatives long before this and many other places. Nothing new, you’re just late to the party. And from what I know of them, I doubt either one would agree with you when someone is down, handcuffed, and in custody.

So you really have no clue what warm and fuzzy meant? Let…me…see…if…I…can..explain…it…to…you. The group that scored the lowest on detecting lying had the highest certainty, which means they are more likely to incorporate info that buttresses their certainty while ignoring or discarding info that doesn’t. Normal human behavior, but that group was Police detectives. So still lost on the warm and fuzzy?

OK, your paragraph on corruption/ abusive cops was rational and actually willing to give. Good job. Yes all of this is a matter of degree, and what we are arguing is the scope and frequency. You may be too close to the problem and I may be too critical. It is quite possible we are both wrong. You may be giving your fellow officers too much benefit, I too little. I always keep it in the back of my mind that I may be wrong, it may be something you may need to acknowledge to yourself. Yes, there are about 880,000 LEOs in this country, but we’ll differ on the number of cases of misconduct.

You need to realize and accept that the camera is going to put you under more and more scrutiny. You also need to accept that more and more cases of real, or seemingly so, cases of misconduct are going to come out. You also need to acknowlegdge that a lot of real cases would have been hidden if not for the camera. That beat down of the idiot ejected from the van would never have hit the light of day if it weren’t for cameras. IIRC, they hid it for a year and even tried to doctor the record. They were fired, which we would both agree is a good thing. Without the video record, no fault found.

You also sell a lot of us short. I was in the military and hit at lot of bars with buddies from Shit Street in Hono to Kodiak, North Chicago to New York when Times Square was a shithole. Think we never had to restrain a friend who got violent when drunk? Think again. It takes a lot of force, people, and pain, especially when your trying not to really hurt the guy. Hell, it can take two adults to restrain a three year old throwing a full blown tantrum. You’re not sharing anything new to me. You just get to do it a lot more often with better training, and a lower chance of being punished if you overstep. And you get to believe only you and your brothers have ever experienced it.

You also need to understand that your doing just as much whining as you accuse others of, just from the other side.

Finally, I’ll leave you with this. I thought the Rodney King beat down was excessive force, but only the last 12 seconds IIRC. At that point they crossed over, everything done before that was completely OK and necessary, they weren’t doing it for baton practice. He was a handful. That Simi Valley let them off just means Simi Valley let them off. You, of course, believe every jury makes the right decision. Don’t you?

Stay safe without crossing the line. We’ll second guess you tomorrow if you hit the news.

Time for dinner.

http://www.injusticeeverywhere.com/

The guy who runs the site supplies his methodology. So if you care to, you can look at the numbers yourself.

The fact is police misconduct happens 1000′s of times a day, from the least serious (disrespectful speech) to the most serious (murder).

On a percentage basis, given there are over 800,000 officers, the numbers do not appear that significant. But to the individual who is violated it is personally very significant.

The thing is the misconduct doesn’t have to happen at all or the most egregious misconduct doesn’t have to happen (murder, rape, aggravated battery….) and you don’t help alleviate anyone’s fear with your belligerent attitude. Take that for what it is worth.

Be safe out there and try to to violate that oath you took when you raised your right hand and swore.

In reference to all your “experience” with law enforcement and violence, isn’t the internet wonderful? We are talking about police force and you just happen to be a martial arts expert. We talk about police policies and you just happen to have an aunt who is an asst chief of a large department. We talk about what it is really like to do the job and you have happen to have an uncle who is retired with 20+ years on the job. Lets not forget all your scary experiences as a kid in the 60s. I have a feeling that if we were talking about police shooting accuracy you would suddenly become a pistol instructor.

I have my doubts about all the above however for the sake of argument lets address some of them. Lets say that you are trained up in the martial arts. You probably know as well as I do that things are different outside the dojo. I am trained in Brazilian JJ and while it is useful, there are plenty of times when you have to forget the armbar and just punch a person in the face.

I would love to know what your aunt, uncle, Cousin Bob and Aunt Tilly all think about getting spit on. If your uncle really is retired with 20+ years, I can bet he has some strong opinions on it too.

Believe it or not we do agree on one thing. Corrupt and/or abusive cops should be fired and prosecuted. What we don’t agree on is the frequency and scope of the problem. I don’t think it is that bad and I think that the police do a good job of policing themselves. You obviously feel differently. Just keep in mind that there are thousands and thousands of LEOs in this country and very few cases of misconduct (IMO).

Another thing we disagree on is what constitutes excessive force. Obviously the BART shooting and the Abner Louima incident fall in that category. However in minor incidents I think the officer should be given the benefit of the doubt based on the circumstances. I also think that people (yourself included) have no idea what it takes to put people in custody. I have been involved in arrests where I had to fight like hell to get someone in cuffs and then some ACLU wannabe starts hollering that I was too rough. Doesnt matter that it took three of us five minutes to subdue the guy. All that matters to the complainer is that it didn’t look pretty. I see that same attitude here when Carlos posts videos of police arresting people. Pardon me if I get a little tired of the shock and indignation on this site.

Once you have a few experiences like that you realize that most claims of excessive force are straight up whining bullshit.

I would love to continue this but I have to go strap on my vest and gun and go answer 911 calls. Hope you have a nice and safe night while I go try to do my job while being second guessed by every person with an internet connection.