By Carlos Miller
It is not clear where this took place but the cop was eventually fired, according to whomever posted the video on Live Leak.
The suspect is handcuffed and lying on the floor of a jail cell. The cop is standing over him, demanding him to sit up.
The suspect says “fuck you.” The cop punches him at least three times.
If anybody has more information on this, please pass it along.
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Fernandez, as I mentioned in a 
Sounds like he was spitting on the cop. Poor criminal. My heart breaks for him.
To which criminal were you referring?
An example of someone willing to take the beating. He will get paid thanks to Johnny Law and all his brothers spreading the wealth one citizen at a time.
“…spreading the wealth one violent criminal at a time.”
There you go. I fixed your post for you. You’re welcome.
“…spreading the wealth one criminal at a time, because the law enforcement are unprofessional and walking anger management issues..”
There ya go, I fixed your fixed post for you. You are welcome.
I’ll fix my own post: to which violent criminal were you referring? You act like a criminal, you are a criminal.
Johnny the only help I need from you is to continue with your belligerent attitude.
People like “Johnny Law” will never admit even to themselves that they are wrong. JL and the like are on on a lower level that the supposed criminal laying on the floor, and sadly he will never be intelligent of objective enough to realize it. Good day sir.
Negative. Of course there are officers who take it too far and deserve to lose their jobs and even be charged. However I am not so quick to immediately label every single incident of police force as excessive. The people on this site are so anti-police that I doubt they would admit any time an officer uses force and it is justified.
You have no idea what it is like to deal with violent resisting subjects and would probably poop your pants if you got in a real fight. The video sounds as if the turd on the floor was spitting on the officer. The officer is justified in using force to stop this.
Do I know all the facts? Nope and neither do you. However I know what it is like to deal with these folks so I am willing to give the officer the benefit of the doubt. You just want him fired. Then when the police become too timid, you will complain that they are cowards and won’t do their jobs.
Seriously, wake up and shake your ridiculous hatred. It will make you a better person.
JL: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
I’m sorry, that’s all I heard.
The fact is that unless the other guy has a weapon or is assaulting an officer, they do NOT have the right to assault anyone! Especially if the other guy taking the beating is HOGTIED!
Cops think they are above the law and that it’s their job not so much to enforce the law but also to punish those who break the law. Here’s a news flash for you, it’s the courts that punish people, not cops. If a cop ever hit me, I’d fight back and defend myself, an I hope others will too.
If i were a cop and a suspect who was restrained and in a jail cell were spitting on me, i would note that there was a camera, go out, fill out the proper forms that explain why the suspect is still cuffed and in a jail cell, and close the door and let him sit and think about what an asshole he is. violating someone’s civil rights is better than physically beating them for no reason, at least in this very narrow circumstance.
Johnny Law’s set of responses is basically saying “well if you annoy a cop, expect a beating” and that’s just bullshit. I can flip a cop off while calling him a dirty pig poker and there isn’t a damn thing he can legally in retaliation. and if i spit on him, he can probably legally arrest me. Not beat me. understand?
Johnny Law,
1. The cop was fired. Likely for more incidents than just this one, a pattern that you will always make excuses for.
2. Cops have qualified immunity because they can violate the law, they can become criminals on the job.
3. “pooping your pants” can also be a violent overreaction, anger and fear are related. And you have no idea what the rest of us have faced in our lives.
4. Alcoholism runs twice as high in Police as the general population. Consider what that means as to personality disorders, alcohol caused violence especially DV, DUI, Sexual Assault (you guys run really high there), etc. How often have you given a pass to one of your “brothers” for behavior that would have put a citizen in jail? How often have you hidden information that would have led to charges against a fellow officer? A criminal is a criminal, the badge doesn’t create purity. The badge isn’t a pass.
5. I have Police in my family, retired and currently serving. I’ve seen the personality changes, the skewed view of everyone not with a badge, I’ve also seen the swing back. But then my relatives are good cops, not perfect, but good cops.
6. I can be a good citizen all my life, lose my temper one time and I will be immediately judged by you, arrested and jailed. But that doesn’t apply for your Blue tribal world does it? There’s never enough info on our brother, we have to wait for more on our brother, or we dirty the victim, we excuse, excuse, excuse. We’ll conspire to write this report so the victim is the criminal, and the criminal the victim. Have a car accident, we’ll blame the one you hit. Shoot a homeowner in the back who called you for help, we’ve got your back. That homeowner pointed a gun at you, right, even though he was facing the other way and all your shots entered his back? That homeowner’s wanted for something two states over, took us two months to find warrants with something like his name, but we got him now. We’ll try to force the dealer that sold him his gun to say he got it illegally, lied to the dealer, we’ll twist that dealer’s arm until he says what we need. It’s the homeowner’s fault, see? The shooting was a good one. (This last one took place in Phoenix, they tried everything they could to dirty the guy they shot but failed.)
To you and all other cops. Quit backing bad cops with excuses. Quit dirtying yourself. Show some integrity. Show some honor. Otherwise, get out. You don’t deserve the badge. You dishonor it.
Good points all Ariel.
Wow Ariel, rant much? You just proved my post for me. You’re hatred has turned the police in the boogyman. I hope you aren’t chased by black helicopters much.
Genewitch, I applaud your self-restraint. Now go out and actually get spit on in the face and tell me how you handled it. It’s not so easy to shine that halo when it happens in real life.
The individual police are not necessarily the problem, even though many of them are. It’s the whole system of hierarchy.
The Stanford Prison Experiment shows a hierarchical system turns good people turn sadistists – quickly.
Our nation has become an open-air Stanford Prison Experiment.
Cops only serve one function. Serve and Protect the most Powerful.
Johhny Law,
I spent 20 years as a paramedic in the city of Indianpolis with Wishard Hospital. I have been hit, spit on, assaulted, and had a knife pulled on me. I never once hit one of these people, degraded them, or took vengeance in any manner. You see, it was my job, and I choose it. I was paid to face the danger and to keep my cool even when being treated like shit.
I’ve seen your brother in blue in action. Most of them are good people, but there is an attitude of protection among SOME of them, and even an attitude of entitlement. (I risk my life, so I get a free pass to do what I want.)
Ariel made some great points, but rather than look at those points, you choose to deflect her argument by portraying her as paranoid.
The police choose their job, and they are paid for it. By the nature of what they are entrusted with, they must rise above the petty feelings of revenge, and uphold the law with equanimity.
I can only write you off as a troll. I don’t know how anyone could look at the news today and not understand why there is a basic mistrust of the police. You also don’t understand the basic concept of doing ones job properly.
Welcome to Johnny’s world: A citizen gets one millimeter out of line with a cop, and the citizen gets beaten. A cop violates the law, and there’s little but excuses about how “tough” the cops have it, so they should get a free pass for violating the law.
In short, Johnny’s pro-criminal cops far more than the regulars on this site are “cop haters”, and expecting the cops to OBEY THE LAW is the equivalent (to Johnny) of “hating cops”.
Note to Johnny: I don’t care that the job is difficult. Many jobs are difficult. If you aren’t good enough at the job to do it without /breaking the law/, then quit, and let someone competent do the job, instead.
Wow, Johnny Law, have any depth? Or is everything you read filtered entirely by your prejudices? Those questions are rhetorical, as you make so obvious with “rant” and “boogyman”. You addressed nothing and went off on an ad hominem.
There are too many documented cases where police have tried to intimidate witnesses to police crimes, have tried to dirty the victims (that’s an honor/shame sickness if you understand what an honor/shame tribal culture is) of those crimes, have committed perjury, etc. That’s called corruption that needs to stop. That you consider recognizing corruption tantamount to believing in conspiracies is hysterical (look up the word’s definition if you don’t understand) on your part. The fact that you ignored any of my points leads me to believe you’ve embraced that culture to some extent, or that you can’t read for comprehension.
I hate corruption, I don’t hate police. However, so long as your culture continues to make excuses for the bad amongst you, how do I know if the cop I’m facing is honest or corrupt? Before you go into an ad hominem rant again, this is the same argument cops make about traffic stops and when they first arrive on any scene. They can’t be sure if the citizens are decent or dangerous. Yet well over 90% of us are, so why are you afraid? Understand the point? Or will you just ignore it?
When your unions stop backing police that have lied on police reports, or have committed perjury on the stand, I’ll have more trust in each and everyone of you. You may think its minor, but when you lie, someone likely innocent if the cop had to lie, goes into the grinder and their life gets destroyed. No big deal to you, right?
You gave the usual lip service in one of your comments about you know there are bad cops. That makes you anti-cop, right? You want them gone as much as I do, right?
Now to genewich and spitting. Put this same event on the street between two citizens and you’d give the guy doing the pounding a pat on the back, a high five, and send him on his way. You’d never think to arrest him now would you? You don’t arrest people who tarnish their halo do you?
The reason I write long comments is it generally takes a lot to get through a thick skull. Yours may be too thick.
I was taught to man-up to my mistakes, were you?
Wlby, c’mon buddy. If you really are/were an paramedic you know as well as I do what happens when you encounter a combative subject. You back the hell off and call for the police to deal with him. Don’t try to tell me that you were in the trenches trying to save your fellow man even as they spit in your face. You were standing by with your arms crossed while the police dealt with it.
I work around EMTs all the time. If there is even the hint of conflict, they stage or back off until the police come in to control the situation. That’s fine because it is not their job to mix it up. I don’t tell the EMTs how to do their jobs but I sure find it interesting that you consider yourself an expert on how I should do mine. I sure don’t find it surprising though. Every ass with an opinion thinks they can do a cops job better than the officer. I believe the phrase for that is “armchair quarterback”.
Nemo, you don’t have any idea what it takes to live in my world. Should a citizen get beaten for annoying a cop? Of course not. Should an officer be allowed to use force to protect himself or get a subject under control? All day long.
Ariel, I think you are a paranoid person. Sure there are instances of police corruption and abuse. As long as police recruit from the human race we are going to have issues. However they are by no means the norm. The papers that carry these stories also carry the stories of the officers being investigated and convicted IF they were found to be guilty. Cops go to jail for breaking the law. You just choose to ignore this because it doesn’t fit your world view.
From your rant (yes rant) it looks like you think most cops are power hungry short tempered monsters. On that we are going to have to disagree. You need to be mature enough to realize you are painting all officers with a broad brush because of the crimes of very few.
We are also going to have to disagree on police use of force. Unless you have tried to subdue a resisting subject, you have no idea what force it takes. People who are sheltered are often offended by watching the violence of the arrest but often there is no other way to do.
People on this site expect the police to go enforce the laws but don’t expect them to defend themselves. You get offended that police officers use tactics to keep them safe yet you ignore the examples of officers injured on the job. I don’t know what world you live it but it isn’t the real one. It is just a shame that you can’t put yourself in the shoes of the police. You just think you can do it so much better but I doubt you have any idea that that job really entails.
JL
Johnny Law,
Paranoid?
Nope. I’m just trying to get you to see the other side of it. But please don’t deny the Blue Code of Silence, or the issue of Contempt of Cop, or that various PDs have tried to intimidate witnesses, or anything else regarding corruption. And you attempt to minimize it away while accusing me of maximizing it. I think it needs to be addressed more forcefully, you want to hide from it.
I will give you, that while you again addressed nothing I wrote and went ad hominen, you at least tried to make some cogent arguments even if most were special pleading.
I’ve been in three martial arts, two were throwing arts, and do have an idea of how someone can resist. I went to two of the toughest schools in the San Gabriel Valley (how old were you when you had a knife put to your belly, I was 14 and it was in the 1960s). I cleaned up a suicide when I was 13 (coagulated blood is similiar to liver when pooled). I’ve been a white boy in Compton too, where you’d likely wet your pants without your badge and gun. I also put 4 years in the military. My life was hardly sheltered, but I never let it be an excuse for bad behavior. I never let it destroy my integrity.
I have no problem with force being used to subdue, none. I do with it being used in retribution, and I do when someone is handcuffed on the floor and not striking you but just being an asshole. By the way, when someone is handcuffed and down, simply raising their arms toward their head is quite effective, its called “Shovel to Earth” at the apex. Anyway I only disagree when it is excessive. You might stop and think if so many in the public think this is excessive, maybe it actually is and procedures need to be reviewed. Police safety can also be used as an excuse for wrong-headed practices.
The El Monte head kick distraction incident a ways back had mixed reviews in LA County. While El Monte considers it OK, both LAPD and the LACSO consider it excessive force and it would be grounds for dismissal. Both orgs said it publicly. So was it excessive or wasn’t it? You see, even PDs disagree. Guess the LAPD and LACSO are anti-cop.
Again, I am not bothered by the violence used in arresting a truly resisting suspect. You absolutely have the right and need to defend yourself, something that cop in the video was not doing. As one cop said on Police.one, once handcuffed and down there is no excuse for beating on them. Be honest, if it weren’t for all the cellphone videos, dash cams, and in-cell cameras out there a lot of these incidents would have just evaporated under “no fault found”. Or a wee little reprimand in the file.
Now you wrote you think from my rant (I take it that something longer than a paragraph is a rant to you) that I believe most cops are “power hungry short tempered monsters”. Nope, that’s your broad brush hysterics, your over defensiveness. What I believe is that too many good cops look the other way unless it is so egregious that they can’t, and that is when a cop commits such a major felony that you can’t look away and keep your job, or your decency.
What is disturbing, and illustrative, is a simple case of an auto accident where the cop was responsible. When four other cops arrived on the scene all five conspired to make the victim responsible by falsifying their reports. Unfortunately for them, they forgot to turn off the audio to their dash cams. So in your world, just another isolated incident? How many isolated incidents are there before there is a pattern? This is not about any one PD, but culture, which varies from PD to PD.
So I also understand the corruption can be near non-existent in one PD, and rampant in another. Chicago and Philly come to mind for the latter. I can’t remember the PD, but I do remember a police chief fighting tooth and nail to keep a scumbag cop off his force, but lost to the Union. The scumbag cop took himself out later.
There were two points you made that I thought were quite salient to your mind-set. First, that I ignore the examples of officers on the job. I don’t, but you see this blog isn’t about the good cops do but the bad. Both need to be recognized, but there is plenty about the good, but the bad is too often ignored (again, I’m not talking about major felonies, they are dealt with). You don’t want to hear or see the bad. The second is the “you don’t live in the real one”, but, guy, neither do you.
No I don’t believe I can do it better, I believe you can. I believe there are a lot of good cops and good PD, and some bad cops and bad PDs. All of them need improvement, a little or a lot. Some need the Feds.
I know this has been long and a slog. I’ll leave you with this: I think its a shame you can’t put yourself in the shoes of the rest of us. You just can’t. You’ve been out of the real world too long.
You know one thing I left out, JL, but you also ignored, is called the “cop discount”. It is much harder to convict a cop in court, for various reasons, than other citizens. Even judges catching cops in flagrant perjury are less likely to charge them than other citizens. Lawyers talk about it all the time. Oh, and if you’re anti-lawyer, next time you need one, call a crack-whore. A wee parody of what one cop wrote about people who dare to criticize cops.
As for “anti-cop”, it falls under the definition of “epithet of abuse”. Sidney Hook coined this to describe terms people use so that they may shut their mind off to any arguments that might disturb their prejudices and cause them to rethink their beliefs. It also demonizes the other so that their arguments can be dismissed without examination.
By the way, my aunt is an assistant police chief in a large metro area (I have a feeling she’d put you in for a little more training). My uncle retired after 20+ years. They are also about my age. Nope, I have no idea what cops go through, none, nada.
Finally, I missed a few typo omissions in my #20, I think your intelligent enough to get the gist. Maybe not experienced enough, but you can’t help that.
Given that I’m still having fun, I’ll share something. (Unfortunately, I’ve realized that the lawyer I know, unimpeachable integrity, might not like me sharing her experience with Police in court, it was a good set up for the next point but I’ve redacted it).
Now the reason I bring this up is that I recently read a University study that tried to determine how various professions/groups succeeded in detecting when people are lying. I don’t remember which profession scored highest, some where above chance but not much, but I do remember which one scored highest in certainty but lowest in success. Yep, Police, specifically detectives. They were below chance if I remember correctly. The most certain they knew who was lying and the most wrong at detecting lying. Some humility would go a long way. Other studies have shown Police performance to be no better than chance, so they’re right there with most of us.
Gave me a warm and fuzzy.
Just for giggles I did a quick google on this topic, after getting past the industry that claims it can train Police or any one else to be very effective in detecting lying, you’ll get to the psychology sites. Guess what, you can’t. It’s an intuitive process that training has little effect on, some people are just good at it, but there is an inverse rule regarding accuracy and certainty. The more certain you are the more likely you’re wrong. One group though that is way outside the norm at detecting lying: successful professional poker players. Which is why they are successful professional poker players. After that, its rapidly down hill to chance. None of the studies found “trained professionals” to be any better than untrained, all are at about chance. (This is stranger to stranger, and with no prior knowledge to draw from, so just because you can catch your spouse or friends at it doesn’t make you good at detecting it in strangers. )
Still gives me a warm and fuzzy.
Somebody needs a paramedic after that onslaught.
JL just nip this in the bud and show us where in the police manual it says an officer can use a closed fist against a person spitting at them.
Or the proper method to restrain someone and the use of force when they are handcuffed and on the ground.
Or the part of the force continuum that talks about the proper response to a subject spitting.
EdinMiami,
Sorry I put any of you through that, even JL, but I’d actually like to hear from a cop on this blog just once, “yeah, that cop did bad”. No weaseling, no “it’s the other guys fault”, no “you don’t know our job”, just, “yeah, that cop did bad”. I see it at Police.one, I see it on individual cop blogs, but never from a cop that posts here.
One cop blog went apoplectic about the Chicago Cops trophy photo. Here, they’d say it was the “trophy’s” fault.
Ariel, no apology necessary. You were on point.
If it helps, this ex-cop thinks it is wrong, but then that is probably why I’m an ex-cop and not a current one.
Ariel, three posts back to back? Nope no ranting going on there whatsoever. Especially the part about getting a warm fuzzy feeling. Wow what was that about?
In reference to all your “experience” with law enforcement and violence, isn’t the internet wonderful? We are talking about police force and you just happen to be a martial arts expert. We talk about police policies and you just happen to have an aunt who is an asst chief of a large department. We talk about what it is really like to do the job and you have happen to have an uncle who is retired with 20+ years on the job. Lets not forget all your scary experiences as a kid in the 60s. I have a feeling that if we were talking about police shooting accuracy you would suddenly become a pistol instructor.
I have my doubts about all the above however for the sake of argument lets address some of them. Lets say that you are trained up in the martial arts. You probably know as well as I do that things are different outside the dojo. I am trained in Brazilian JJ and while it is useful, there are plenty of times when you have to forget the armbar and just punch a person in the face.
I would love to know what your aunt, uncle, Cousin Bob and Aunt Tilly all think about getting spit on. If your uncle really is retired with 20+ years, I can bet he has some strong opinions on it too.
Believe it or not we do agree on one thing. Corrupt and/or abusive cops should be fired and prosecuted. What we don’t agree on is the frequency and scope of the problem. I don’t think it is that bad and I think that the police do a good job of policing themselves. You obviously feel differently. Just keep in mind that there are thousands and thousands of LEOs in this country and very few cases of misconduct (IMO).
Another thing we disagree on is what constitutes excessive force. Obviously the BART shooting and the Abner Louima incident fall in that category. However in minor incidents I think the officer should be given the benefit of the doubt based on the circumstances. I also think that people (yourself included) have no idea what it takes to put people in custody. I have been involved in arrests where I had to fight like hell to get someone in cuffs and then some ACLU wannabe starts hollering that I was too rough. Doesnt matter that it took three of us five minutes to subdue the guy. All that matters to the complainer is that it didn’t look pretty. I see that same attitude here when Carlos posts videos of police arresting people. Pardon me if I get a little tired of the shock and indignation on this site.
Once you have a few experiences like that you realize that most claims of excessive force are straight up whining bullshit.
I would love to continue this but I have to go strap on my vest and gun and go answer 911 calls. Hope you have a nice and safe night while I go try to do my job while being second guessed by every person with an internet connection.
Not that you will attempt to look beyond your own shallow view of the world, but feel free to check out this blog:
http://www.injusticeeverywhere.com/
The guy who runs the site supplies his methodology. So if you care to, you can look at the numbers yourself.
The fact is police misconduct happens 1000’s of times a day, from the least serious (disrespectful speech) to the most serious (murder).
On a percentage basis, given there are over 800,000 officers, the numbers do not appear that significant. But to the individual who is violated it is personally very significant.
The thing is the misconduct doesn’t have to happen at all or the most egregious misconduct doesn’t have to happen (murder, rape, aggravated battery….) and you don’t help alleviate anyone’s fear with your belligerent attitude. Take that for what it is worth.
Be safe out there and try to to violate that oath you took when you raised your right hand and swore.
No, the long posts are just fun and hope, fun to write and hope you can actually think out of your box. But it is easier for you to be dismissive with the word “rant”. Should I consider your long posts “rants” too?
Each and every time I write something you expand it into something I didn’t write then argue against that, is this how you do your police work? Think, man, actually think and understand what is written. The ad hominem you use proves nothing.
If I were a martial arts expert I would have said so, but I have spent time in three different arts and yeah I know how hard it can be to take someone down, I’ve also seen how hard it can be on the street. I have also done it on the street. But you still don’t have to directly experience it to know it.
Brazilian JJ is an excellent one for you to be trained in, the art has done extremely well in the mixed martial arts category, mine were “classical” Japanese, and yes nothing is the same outside the dojo. So we do agree on another thing. Nope, not a pistol expert and haven’t fired one in 20 years, scored sharpshooter with the M-16 36 years ago this month, but I have likely fired a much bigger gun than you have, given you don’t allude to military experience. It had a 5 inch barrel and I wasn’t half bad. The rounds were a little heavy to carry around though. I keep a pump action for home protection.
That you question my childhood experiences just tells me you were likely raised as a sheltered middle or upper middle class white boy. I was poor. You probably went to the same elementary, middle, and high school with a lot of other good white boys. I didn’t, I had the privilege of going to 7 public schools, some of them actually safe . I wasn’t raised by my parents either but grandparents. Let me add more that your little sheltered childhood won’t help you understand. I was taught to shoot pool by Mafioso at 10, and by that time had been to every horse track in California (loved Del Mar, Pomona sucked, the rest I barely remember) and the Mexican border towns. And at 10, I told my grandparents I was done with the tracks so I took care of myself for up to three days at a time from then on. Gee that never happens, he must be lying. Such certainty you’ve lived every life. Sheesh. Talk about lack of experience and being sheltered.
I’ve alluded to my relatives long before this and many other places. Nothing new, you’re just late to the party. And from what I know of them, I doubt either one would agree with you when someone is down, handcuffed, and in custody.
So you really have no clue what warm and fuzzy meant? Let…me…see…if…I…can..explain…it…to…you. The group that scored the lowest on detecting lying had the highest certainty, which means they are more likely to incorporate info that buttresses their certainty while ignoring or discarding info that doesn’t. Normal human behavior, but that group was Police detectives. So still lost on the warm and fuzzy?
OK, your paragraph on corruption/ abusive cops was rational and actually willing to give. Good job. Yes all of this is a matter of degree, and what we are arguing is the scope and frequency. You may be too close to the problem and I may be too critical. It is quite possible we are both wrong. You may be giving your fellow officers too much benefit, I too little. I always keep it in the back of my mind that I may be wrong, it may be something you may need to acknowledge to yourself. Yes, there are about 880,000 LEOs in this country, but we’ll differ on the number of cases of misconduct.
You need to realize and accept that the camera is going to put you under more and more scrutiny. You also need to accept that more and more cases of real, or seemingly so, cases of misconduct are going to come out. You also need to acknowlegdge that a lot of real cases would have been hidden if not for the camera. That beat down of the idiot ejected from the van would never have hit the light of day if it weren’t for cameras. IIRC, they hid it for a year and even tried to doctor the record. They were fired, which we would both agree is a good thing. Without the video record, no fault found.
You also sell a lot of us short. I was in the military and hit at lot of bars with buddies from Shit Street in Hono to Kodiak, North Chicago to New York when Times Square was a shithole. Think we never had to restrain a friend who got violent when drunk? Think again. It takes a lot of force, people, and pain, especially when your trying not to really hurt the guy. Hell, it can take two adults to restrain a three year old throwing a full blown tantrum. You’re not sharing anything new to me. You just get to do it a lot more often with better training, and a lower chance of being punished if you overstep. And you get to believe only you and your brothers have ever experienced it.
You also need to understand that your doing just as much whining as you accuse others of, just from the other side.
Finally, I’ll leave you with this. I thought the Rodney King beat down was excessive force, but only the last 12 seconds IIRC. At that point they crossed over, everything done before that was completely OK and necessary, they weren’t doing it for baton practice. He was a handful. That Simi Valley let them off just means Simi Valley let them off. You, of course, believe every jury makes the right decision. Don’t you?
Stay safe without crossing the line. We’ll second guess you tomorrow if you hit the news.
Time for dinner.
Who shall police the police? Why, the police shall police the police, of course, and rest assured that fine, upstanding officers like Johnny Law won’t hesitate for a second to condemn illegal behavior by their fellow officers. Just look at how he’s called out a fellow officer in this case for beating on a cuffed suspect. I wouldn’t be surprised if he loves, and works closely with IA people – you do love IA, don’t you, Johnny?
There is no “Blue Wall of Silence”, people. Nothing to see here.
Move along, move along.
We need to step in and get these bad cops off the street!!!
They need to be rigesterd as bad cops and one little lie should put them in jail for 10 yrs!
They even say they are over us as citizens so let them take the heat and longer jail time than us due to the fact they think they are angels….
Complete liars is all they are, any other cop that would cover or go along with one should spend time in jail also. PERIOD!!!
Poor, poor Jonny Law.
Somebody spit on him apparently.
I think your in the wrong line of work dude.
In fact, I question whether you are LE at all.
Whatever pathetic excuse or attack you formulate in your little world, cannot change what I see on the video.
The actions of the officer in the video above is an obvious felony assault.
Doesn’t matter what transpired off camera.
If you want respect…. which I know you do,
you need too earn it. The uniform does not make a man. His actions do.
Here’s the bottom line dude. You and the “brotherhood” deserve as much respect as you give.
Ariel, I would not waste my time with a person who is so blatantly in denial. I know, for I grew up with sexual, emotional, and physical violence, and unfortunately it was ‘generational’, passed from grandparent to parent to child. And those who can not face the reality of their actions, create a world of their own, and will never take responsibility for their actions. So they will always deny any truth in order to keep with “their” perfect image of themselves, and thus never relinquish due to the fear that resides in them.
We live in a time where history is repeating itself, we are seeing a resurgence of the ‘SS’ and ‘Gestapo’ mentality among the police forces throughout the world. These men and woman want to be on the ‘persecuting’ side, they want to be in control, and not be controlled, there have been police officers that have lived their careers in wanting to truly ’serve and protect’, but that is fading fast. These people are to be pitied, and it’s to no avail in conversing with these types for they thrive on it. Just ignore and do not give any response, so let ‘Johnny Law’ live in his lie, and just do not give him any time or recognition to his responses, he is unrepentant. They all will pay a price for their dishonesty one way or another.
There is no honor among thieves, liars, or any violent person who work such deceitfulness for their own personal gain.
Well it took long enough but someone finally pulled the Nazi card. Well played. I really appreciate your insight into the mind of LEOs. Alex Jones would be proud.
In response to Johnny Law,
Here is some truth that backs up my statement, by a gentleman who grew up in the Nazi regime:
Hilmar von Campe is listed in the 1992 “International Who’s Who of Intellectuals” of the International Biographical Center in Cambridge, England. He is the author of “Defeating the Totalitarian Lie: A Former Hitler Youth Warns America.” Having grown up under the Nazis, he offers a unique perspective on the rise and fall of Nazi Germany. He warns that there are many similarities between the Nazi society and America of today.