Comments on: Man charged with disorderly conduct for photographing women in public http://carlosmiller.com/2009/11/03/man-charged-with-disorderly-conduct-for-photographing-women-in-public/ It's a First Amendment Right Sun, 26 Jun 2011 02:03:25 +0000 hourly 1 By: Rusty Carr http://carlosmiller.com/2009/11/03/man-charged-with-disorderly-conduct-for-photographing-women-in-public/#comment-28385 Rusty Carr Wed, 09 Jun 2010 00:27:16 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=8503#comment-28385 "Maybe I’m misunderstanding..." That appears to be the case. “Maybe I’m misunderstanding…”

That appears to be the case.

]]> By: David http://carlosmiller.com/2009/11/03/man-charged-with-disorderly-conduct-for-photographing-women-in-public/#comment-28383 David Tue, 08 Jun 2010 23:43:12 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=8503#comment-28383 Maybe I'm misunderstanding but are you trying to say that this case rested solely upon the fact that he was taking pictures? They didn't have a reasonable expectation of privacy, I would agree, but did this woman (and any other woman he might have behaved this way with) have a reasonable/legal expectation not to be stalked? Maybe I’m misunderstanding but are you trying to say that this case rested solely upon the fact that he was taking pictures? They didn’t have a reasonable expectation of privacy, I would agree, but did this woman (and any other woman he might have behaved this way with) have a reasonable/legal expectation not to be stalked?

]]> By: Rusty Carr http://carlosmiller.com/2009/11/03/man-charged-with-disorderly-conduct-for-photographing-women-in-public/#comment-22015 Rusty Carr Wed, 14 Apr 2010 18:18:13 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=8503#comment-22015 Difster wrote: "Seems like photography is not really the issue here. It’s stalking and annoying women." However, that's not what he was charged with. They stuck him with some cheapo BS charge, "disorderly conduct" which is so big and broad it could mean looking out your window to see what the hell is going on! Difster wrote: “Seems like photography is not really the issue here. It’s stalking and annoying women.” However, that’s not what he was charged with. They stuck him with some cheapo BS charge, “disorderly conduct” which is so big and broad it could mean looking out your window to see what the hell is going on!

]]> By: ILmom http://carlosmiller.com/2009/11/03/man-charged-with-disorderly-conduct-for-photographing-women-in-public/#comment-19388 ILmom Thu, 04 Feb 2010 19:49:54 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=8503#comment-19388 Cops stole my camera!! I live in a quiet private neighborhood. One of my neighbors is a Cop. He and my hubby had verbal disagreement and to make a LONG story short, we are being watched like felons. We can't walk the dog without a stop and frisk, they park outside our house for hours at a time. So, we began video taping what we considered a breach of privacy. AND took the cam on walks as a way to prove we weren't doing anything wrong. I got a little gutsy and would walk up to the car to record the license plate number. Next thing you know I was arrested and booked for "disorderly conduct". They kept my camera and say they won't give it back until the case closes!!! I can't access evidence to prove my position!! Cops stole my camera!!
I live in a quiet private neighborhood. One of my neighbors is a Cop. He and my hubby had verbal disagreement and to make a LONG story short, we are being watched like felons. We can’t walk the dog without a stop and frisk, they park outside our house for hours at a time. So, we began video taping what we considered a breach of privacy. AND took the cam on walks as a way to prove we weren’t doing anything wrong.
I got a little gutsy and would walk up to the car to record the license plate number. Next thing you know I was arrested and booked for “disorderly conduct”. They kept my camera and say they won’t give it back until the case closes!!! I can’t access evidence to prove my position!!

]]> By: Mike H http://carlosmiller.com/2009/11/03/man-charged-with-disorderly-conduct-for-photographing-women-in-public/#comment-17676 Mike H Sun, 06 Dec 2009 14:40:58 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=8503#comment-17676 I got 2 disorderly conducts in my over 55 years of life. The first because women were alarmed that I was wearing a towell out in the woods along a river and chased me on horseback, threatening my life, but only I was prosecuted. The second was a woman who saw me remove my swimsuit in the woods to relieve the runs. I have only contempt left for this country. I got 2 disorderly conducts in my over 55 years of life. The first because women were alarmed that I was wearing a towell out in the woods along a river and chased me on horseback, threatening my life, but only I was prosecuted. The second was a woman who saw me remove my swimsuit in the woods to relieve the runs. I have only contempt left for this country.

]]> By: Mike H http://carlosmiller.com/2009/11/03/man-charged-with-disorderly-conduct-for-photographing-women-in-public/#comment-17675 Mike H Sun, 06 Dec 2009 14:30:21 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=8503#comment-17675 The only ways to beat disorderly conduct, is either conviction on a higher charge or the mercy of the court. No jury allowed, totally up to some judge, good luck. And talk about a low threshold - someone only has to be offended or alarmed. Hell, women are alarmed if a man simply walks by them in an area with no other people. And if you try to fight it, they threaten to give you a trial penalty, maybe put you in jail for 3 months. @akagoldfish Fortunately, some states like Ohio don't even consider a crime, in the sense that people do not have to declare it as having a criminal record. The only ways to beat disorderly conduct, is either conviction on a higher charge or the mercy of the court. No jury allowed, totally up to some judge, good luck. And talk about a low threshold – someone only has to be offended or alarmed. Hell, women are alarmed if a man simply walks by them in an area with no other people. And if you try to fight it, they threaten to give you a trial penalty, maybe put you in jail for 3 months.

@akagoldfish
Fortunately, some states like Ohio don’t even consider a crime, in the sense that people do not have to declare it as having a criminal record.

]]> By: Mike H http://carlosmiller.com/2009/11/03/man-charged-with-disorderly-conduct-for-photographing-women-in-public/#comment-17633 Mike H Fri, 04 Dec 2009 16:40:40 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=8503#comment-17633 I meant they don't have to offer a JURY trial. I meant they don’t have to offer a JURY trial.

]]> By: Mike H http://carlosmiller.com/2009/11/03/man-charged-with-disorderly-conduct-for-photographing-women-in-public/#comment-17631 Mike H Fri, 04 Dec 2009 15:49:49 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=8503#comment-17631 @akagoldfish In the US, the pigs do not have to offer a trial if the offense is punishable for less than a maximum of 6 months in jail. Disorderly conduct is 3 months. It is the perfect charge for a police state trying to control people's behavior. Also used for America's bitches that are clearly favored in the courts. They bitch and the pigs make the men pay. @akagoldfish
In the US, the pigs do not have to offer a trial if the offense is punishable for less than a maximum of 6 months in jail. Disorderly conduct is 3 months. It is the perfect charge for a police state trying to control people’s behavior. Also used for America’s bitches that are clearly favored in the courts. They bitch and the pigs make the men pay.

]]> By: akagoldfish http://carlosmiller.com/2009/11/03/man-charged-with-disorderly-conduct-for-photographing-women-in-public/#comment-16671 akagoldfish Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:03:33 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=8503#comment-16671 If I recall Illinois' anti-stalking law, you have to focus on one person for it to apply. Short-term stalking of a lot of different people wouldn't count. If I recall Illinois’ anti-stalking law, you have to focus on one person for it to apply. Short-term stalking of a lot of different people wouldn’t count.

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