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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
		<link>http://carlosmiller.com/2009/10/05/man-arrested-for-tweeting-which-leads-to-raid-on-home/#comment-16338</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 02:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is crazy! Who would of thought 140 characters could get you arrested. I must be more careful from now on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is crazy! Who would of thought 140 characters could get you arrested. I must be more careful from now on.</p>
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		<title>By: Randall A. Gordon</title>
		<link>http://carlosmiller.com/2009/10/05/man-arrested-for-tweeting-which-leads-to-raid-on-home/#comment-15728</link>
		<dc:creator>Randall A. Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 05:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Jon mentions, the State Department&#039;s involvement with Twitter during the Iran protests create a double standard that is...especially infuriating. Granted, this is an entirely separate agency, but the disconnect is simply ridiculous!

The list of objects seized does cause me to hang my head, but with a slight grin. Makes me wonder what the reaction of modern law enforcement would be to search the homes of, say, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, etc. Or, better yet, da Vinci, Maxwell or other giants of the scientific world. They&#039;d be scared shitless—everything would be a terrorist&#039;s tool!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Jon mentions, the State Department&#8217;s involvement with Twitter during the Iran protests create a double standard that is&#8230;especially infuriating. Granted, this is an entirely separate agency, but the disconnect is simply ridiculous!</p>
<p>The list of objects seized does cause me to hang my head, but with a slight grin. Makes me wonder what the reaction of modern law enforcement would be to search the homes of, say, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, etc. Or, better yet, da Vinci, Maxwell or other giants of the scientific world. They&#8217;d be scared shitless—everything would be a terrorist&#8217;s tool!</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Quimbly</title>
		<link>http://carlosmiller.com/2009/10/05/man-arrested-for-tweeting-which-leads-to-raid-on-home/#comment-15657</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Quimbly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 18:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MP3 of interview with Elliot Madison&#039;s attorney Martin Stolar:

http://archive.wbai.org/files/mp3/091007_190001oth.MP3

The story and interview begin at 15:20.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MP3 of interview with Elliot Madison&#8217;s attorney Martin Stolar:</p>
<p><a href="http://archive.wbai.org/files/mp3/091007_190001oth.MP3" rel="nofollow">http://archive.wbai.org/files/mp3/091007_190001oth.MP3</a></p>
<p>The story and interview begin at 15:20.</p>
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		<title>By: TL Winslow</title>
		<link>http://carlosmiller.com/2009/10/05/man-arrested-for-tweeting-which-leads-to-raid-on-home/#comment-15653</link>
		<dc:creator>TL Winslow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 18:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Achilles heel of the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights is absence of a law allowing the govt. to be arrested and prosecuted by itself. Welcome to my world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Achilles heel of the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights is absence of a law allowing the govt. to be arrested and prosecuted by itself. Welcome to my world.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Molecule</title>
		<link>http://carlosmiller.com/2009/10/05/man-arrested-for-tweeting-which-leads-to-raid-on-home/#comment-15642</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Molecule</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 13:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CNN posted a good updated article on this:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/10/06/G20.tweeters/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CNN posted a good updated article on this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/10/06/G20.tweeters/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/10/06/G20.tweeters/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jon Quimbly</title>
		<link>http://carlosmiller.com/2009/10/05/man-arrested-for-tweeting-which-leads-to-raid-on-home/#comment-15633</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Quimbly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 23:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interview with Elliot Madison&#039;s attorney is happening at the moment, check in here after 8pm-

http://archive.wbai.org/

Look for show &#039;Off The Hook&#039; (a show run by 2600 Magazine.)  Lots of issues covered, especially the constitutional angles, but also the merits of the search warrant, the items seized, why Twitter was an issue etc.

The State Department protested to the government of Iran when they shut down access to Twitter during the election protests this year.

Yet, when the same thing happens here, use of Twitter to assist protesters ... criminalized.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interview with Elliot Madison&#8217;s attorney is happening at the moment, check in here after 8pm-</p>
<p><a href="http://archive.wbai.org/" rel="nofollow">http://archive.wbai.org/</a></p>
<p>Look for show &#8216;Off The Hook&#8217; (a show run by 2600 Magazine.)  Lots of issues covered, especially the constitutional angles, but also the merits of the search warrant, the items seized, why Twitter was an issue etc.</p>
<p>The State Department protested to the government of Iran when they shut down access to Twitter during the election protests this year.</p>
<p>Yet, when the same thing happens here, use of Twitter to assist protesters &#8230; criminalized.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Quimbly</title>
		<link>http://carlosmiller.com/2009/10/05/man-arrested-for-tweeting-which-leads-to-raid-on-home/#comment-15620</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Quimbly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 04:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check this out, others during G-20 monitored police scanners, made recordings and posted them on the web:

http://kdka.com/local/g20/G20.police.recordings.2.1229524.html

They claim to have proof of police giving protesters an order to disperse while coordinating over the radio to move in and arrest them.

`The thing has been designated &#039;hammer and anvil&#039; and it is essentially an almost military-like maneuver that is used to indiscriminately sweep an area of people who have a legitimate right to be there and have a legitimate right to express their Constitutional rights,&quot; Albert Petrarca, an activist, said.&#039;

Here&#039;s the capper: &quot;...but police are working with the District Attorney to dismiss charges against any people wrongly arrested.&quot;

Kinda puts me to mind of the NYPD&#039;s plan during the RNC, same kinda tactics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check this out, others during G-20 monitored police scanners, made recordings and posted them on the web:</p>
<p><a href="http://kdka.com/local/g20/G20.police.recordings.2.1229524.html" rel="nofollow">http://kdka.com/local/g20/G20.police.recordings.2.1229524.html</a></p>
<p>They claim to have proof of police giving protesters an order to disperse while coordinating over the radio to move in and arrest them.</p>
<p>`The thing has been designated &#8216;hammer and anvil&#8217; and it is essentially an almost military-like maneuver that is used to indiscriminately sweep an area of people who have a legitimate right to be there and have a legitimate right to express their Constitutional rights,&#8221; Albert Petrarca, an activist, said.&#8217;</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the capper: &#8220;&#8230;but police are working with the District Attorney to dismiss charges against any people wrongly arrested.&#8221;</p>
<p>Kinda puts me to mind of the NYPD&#8217;s plan during the RNC, same kinda tactics.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Quimbly</title>
		<link>http://carlosmiller.com/2009/10/05/man-arrested-for-tweeting-which-leads-to-raid-on-home/#comment-15619</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Quimbly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 04:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carlos,

The hilarious thing about the police scanner-internet connection that the cops are pushing, is that live police scanner streams have been available online for years:

http://www.dxzone.com/catalog/Internet_and_Radio/Police_Scanners/
http://www.google.com/search?q=nypd+scanners+recording+OR+listen+OR+audio+OR+video+robbery+OR+protest+OR+shot+OR+shooting

During most large scale protests I&#039;ve covered, there&#039;s usually been an SMS service (run by demonstrators) that delivers updates about protest locations, police presence and whatnot.  Whether it&#039;s police scanners, or people on the street posting updates from their iphones, or people just calling each other - it doesn&#039;t matter, the word gets around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carlos,</p>
<p>The hilarious thing about the police scanner-internet connection that the cops are pushing, is that live police scanner streams have been available online for years:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dxzone.com/catalog/Internet_and_Radio/Police_Scanners/" rel="nofollow">http://www.dxzone.com/catalog/Internet_and_Radio/Police_Scanners/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=nypd+scanners+recording+OR+listen+OR+audio+OR+video+robbery+OR+protest+OR+shot+OR+shooting" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/search?q=nypd+scanners+recording+OR+listen+OR+audio+OR+video+robbery+OR+protest+OR+shot+OR+shooting</a></p>
<p>During most large scale protests I&#8217;ve covered, there&#8217;s usually been an SMS service (run by demonstrators) that delivers updates about protest locations, police presence and whatnot.  Whether it&#8217;s police scanners, or people on the street posting updates from their iphones, or people just calling each other &#8211; it doesn&#8217;t matter, the word gets around.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tom:

This may apply to personal communications, but not to public official communications likes police, fire, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tom:</p>
<p>This may apply to personal communications, but not to public official communications likes police, fire, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Kol. Klink</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kol. Klink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 01:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To &quot;SERVE AND PROTECT&#039;&#039; the elite means beating down the proles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To &#8220;SERVE AND PROTECT&#8221; the elite means beating down the proles.</p>
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		<title>By: Michaelk42</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michaelk42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 23:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tom

Well, if that&#039;s the case, this is going to be one of those times to say &quot;screw the law, it&#039;s overbroad and unconstitutional.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tom</p>
<p>Well, if that&#8217;s the case, this is going to be one of those times to say &#8220;screw the law, it&#8217;s overbroad and unconstitutional.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 21:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately this is an area that has been changing over they years. When I took my radio operators certificate (in Canada), the law was and still is, very clear in Canada. The law was based on an international treaty from the early days of radio. It stated that radio communications that were not general purpose (i.e. commercial broadcast, or broadcast to &quot;all stations&quot;) were private to the recipient. This was meant for long distance short wave that at the time had no encryption capability. You could listen, but you could not repeat. I know the equivalent law in the US went to a constitutional challenge way back when, and was upheld. If it is legal now, it is because the law has been changed. Not knowing the details of US law, I can&#039;t comment on the current situation. 

@Michaelk42: yes it is selective enforcement
@Carlos Miller: If you publish an written article based on police scanners, yes, it might still be against the federal law. Similarly if you were to publish an article based on conversations heard over marine frequencies, it might also be against federal law. I believe that CB frequencies had a specific exemption.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately this is an area that has been changing over they years. When I took my radio operators certificate (in Canada), the law was and still is, very clear in Canada. The law was based on an international treaty from the early days of radio. It stated that radio communications that were not general purpose (i.e. commercial broadcast, or broadcast to &#8220;all stations&#8221;) were private to the recipient. This was meant for long distance short wave that at the time had no encryption capability. You could listen, but you could not repeat. I know the equivalent law in the US went to a constitutional challenge way back when, and was upheld. If it is legal now, it is because the law has been changed. Not knowing the details of US law, I can&#8217;t comment on the current situation. </p>
<p>@Michaelk42: yes it is selective enforcement<br />
@Carlos Miller: If you publish an written article based on police scanners, yes, it might still be against the federal law. Similarly if you were to publish an article based on conversations heard over marine frequencies, it might also be against federal law. I believe that CB frequencies had a specific exemption.</p>
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		<title>By: Michaelk42</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michaelk42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 19:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to wonder why no one is going after the people providing streams for this iPhone app then

http://www.juicydevelopment.com/policescanner.html

&quot;It must be pointed out that Juicy Development does not produce the vast majority of the streams that are in the scanner.  A few streams are provided by government web sites but the majority of streams are provided by volunteers, hobbyist, and even a few fanatics.  Most of theses people are sponsoring or publishing streams at their own expense.&quot;

If it&#039;s always against the law to repeat the info with or without criminal intent, then hello, selective prosecution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to wonder why no one is going after the people providing streams for this iPhone app then</p>
<p><a href="http://www.juicydevelopment.com/policescanner.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.juicydevelopment.com/policescanner.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;It must be pointed out that Juicy Development does not produce the vast majority of the streams that are in the scanner.  A few streams are provided by government web sites but the majority of streams are provided by volunteers, hobbyist, and even a few fanatics.  Most of theses people are sponsoring or publishing streams at their own expense.&#8221;</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s always against the law to repeat the info with or without criminal intent, then hello, selective prosecution.</p>
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