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	<title>Comments on: Two Florida men face prison for flashing gang signs on Myspace</title>
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		<title>By: LarryJohnson</title>
		<link>http://carlosmiller.com/2009/08/05/two-florida-men-face-prison-for-flashing-gang-signs-on-myspace/#comment-14370</link>
		<dc:creator>LarryJohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a previous poster mentioned, free speech is being curtailed in the US under the overly broad &quot;child&quot; pornography law in the US.  The international standard is that child pornography is videos and photographs of actual small children being sexually assaulted.   The US law goes beyond that description and outlaws media that is of young adults under the age of 18 engaged in completely normal and natural sexual acts.  This would include the 18 year old Marine in a combat zone engaging in cybersex with his 17 year old girlfriend (or even wife) via a webcam or any other non-commercial consensual acts.  (Interesting to note that the age of consent in the US ranges from 14 to 18 with most adolescent psychologists believing it should be 15.)

Unless it can be proved by reason, facts and empirical evidence that speech is harmful and unreasonably harmful, then it must not be outlawed or in anyway restricted.  The freedom of speech, right of privacy, equal protection, etc. of young adults have been violated in the US and as a result cruel and unusual punishments (coupled with unfair trials due to media publicity, gross ignorance of human sexuality and prudishness by jurors) have been inflicted upon citizens without any evidence that what they did, what they looked at, etc., was in any way harmful. 

The only sexual activity (including media expressions of sexuality) that the government should outlaw is that which is unambiguously non consensual.  The law must never be used to enforce religious doctrine or cultural mores.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a previous poster mentioned, free speech is being curtailed in the US under the overly broad &#8220;child&#8221; pornography law in the US.  The international standard is that child pornography is videos and photographs of actual small children being sexually assaulted.   The US law goes beyond that description and outlaws media that is of young adults under the age of 18 engaged in completely normal and natural sexual acts.  This would include the 18 year old Marine in a combat zone engaging in cybersex with his 17 year old girlfriend (or even wife) via a webcam or any other non-commercial consensual acts.  (Interesting to note that the age of consent in the US ranges from 14 to 18 with most adolescent psychologists believing it should be 15.)</p>
<p>Unless it can be proved by reason, facts and empirical evidence that speech is harmful and unreasonably harmful, then it must not be outlawed or in anyway restricted.  The freedom of speech, right of privacy, equal protection, etc. of young adults have been violated in the US and as a result cruel and unusual punishments (coupled with unfair trials due to media publicity, gross ignorance of human sexuality and prudishness by jurors) have been inflicted upon citizens without any evidence that what they did, what they looked at, etc., was in any way harmful. </p>
<p>The only sexual activity (including media expressions of sexuality) that the government should outlaw is that which is unambiguously non consensual.  The law must never be used to enforce religious doctrine or cultural mores.</p>
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		<title>By: Cop GANGS</title>
		<link>http://carlosmiller.com/2009/08/05/two-florida-men-face-prison-for-flashing-gang-signs-on-myspace/#comment-14354</link>
		<dc:creator>Cop GANGS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 03:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We will rise as a nation and run all of the corrupt cops out of this country! You stop taking away these peoples rights to freedom of speech, expression, right to have their own opinion even if it envolves EXPOSING cops ILLEGAL BEHAVIOR. WE pay your salary cops, NOT the mafia. The people do and we will stand together and fight to take you from your arrogant pedistal of position making people&#039;s lives hell that exercised their rights! Take your paws off them and let them go or face CIVIL WAR!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We will rise as a nation and run all of the corrupt cops out of this country! You stop taking away these peoples rights to freedom of speech, expression, right to have their own opinion even if it envolves EXPOSING cops ILLEGAL BEHAVIOR. WE pay your salary cops, NOT the mafia. The people do and we will stand together and fight to take you from your arrogant pedistal of position making people&#8217;s lives hell that exercised their rights! Take your paws off them and let them go or face CIVIL WAR!</p>
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		<title>By: Cop GANGS</title>
		<link>http://carlosmiller.com/2009/08/05/two-florida-men-face-prison-for-flashing-gang-signs-on-myspace/#comment-14353</link>
		<dc:creator>Cop GANGS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 03:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We will rise as a nation and run all of the corrupt cops out of this country! You stop taking away these peoples rights to freedom of speech, expression, right to have their own opinion even if it envolves EXPOSING cops ILLEGAL BEHAVIOR. WE pay your salary cops, NOT the mafia. The people do and we will stand together and fight to take you from your arrogant pedistal of position making people&#039;s lives hell that dare to stand up to your arrogance and criminalism!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We will rise as a nation and run all of the corrupt cops out of this country! You stop taking away these peoples rights to freedom of speech, expression, right to have their own opinion even if it envolves EXPOSING cops ILLEGAL BEHAVIOR. WE pay your salary cops, NOT the mafia. The people do and we will stand together and fight to take you from your arrogant pedistal of position making people&#8217;s lives hell that dare to stand up to your arrogance and criminalism!</p>
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		<title>By: ALL BE DAMNED</title>
		<link>http://carlosmiller.com/2009/08/05/two-florida-men-face-prison-for-flashing-gang-signs-on-myspace/#comment-14325</link>
		<dc:creator>ALL BE DAMNED</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 04:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmmm didnt we leave this kind of shit in europe
what 200 years ago now, I belive it says at the end of the constitution 
LIFE LIBERTY AND THE PERSUIT OF HAPPIENESS
not put all who disagree with me on the chopping block cause their diffrent, show a diffrent view 
Hell even the US army has a GANG sign ITS CALLED A SALUTE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmm didnt we leave this kind of shit in europe<br />
what 200 years ago now, I belive it says at the end of the constitution<br />
LIFE LIBERTY AND THE PERSUIT OF HAPPIENESS<br />
not put all who disagree with me on the chopping block cause their diffrent, show a diffrent view<br />
Hell even the US army has a GANG sign ITS CALLED A SALUTE</p>
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		<title>By: tara</title>
		<link>http://carlosmiller.com/2009/08/05/two-florida-men-face-prison-for-flashing-gang-signs-on-myspace/#comment-14318</link>
		<dc:creator>tara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am photographer and i take pics of everything fromanit war to gangs to what ever, there are many speaches out there i thin  a simple sigh proves nothing other then they make a sighn for the gang they are in sorta like  a reporter has their  companys logo on their  equipment.   i dont think it is that powerful enouf to get people to join. i know that some gangs you have to prove your of worth to be in from beat downs to what ever. once your in your in a huge family that stands by you. so do we arest a scott for his kilt as he wears his crest colors ? do we  stop school uniforms at private schools. so that they are not promoteing the school? i mean really its a picture. i think we are to anal about  things  we are not standing up for the things that really mater,  like  children in the streets of the sa starving.  woman on the streets selling them selves to feed self or family.  we choke welfare into people we dont show a way out for them, then we condem them for using the system we shove down their mouths. so  let these men  go its a picture if you dont like it  don tlook is it gonna hurt you. i amm related to  john adams who came  up with the decleration of independence who sat next to so many other men and drew up the  our independence. just as amendments where also made. now we have people trying to make new ones to suite them selves. the law states freedom of speach and no matter what the law makers say it will never over turn what has been in place for years and years. lets fix the real issues..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am photographer and i take pics of everything fromanit war to gangs to what ever, there are many speaches out there i thin  a simple sigh proves nothing other then they make a sighn for the gang they are in sorta like  a reporter has their  companys logo on their  equipment.   i dont think it is that powerful enouf to get people to join. i know that some gangs you have to prove your of worth to be in from beat downs to what ever. once your in your in a huge family that stands by you. so do we arest a scott for his kilt as he wears his crest colors ? do we  stop school uniforms at private schools. so that they are not promoteing the school? i mean really its a picture. i think we are to anal about  things  we are not standing up for the things that really mater,  like  children in the streets of the sa starving.  woman on the streets selling them selves to feed self or family.  we choke welfare into people we dont show a way out for them, then we condem them for using the system we shove down their mouths. so  let these men  go its a picture if you dont like it  don tlook is it gonna hurt you. i amm related to  john adams who came  up with the decleration of independence who sat next to so many other men and drew up the  our independence. just as amendments where also made. now we have people trying to make new ones to suite them selves. the law states freedom of speach and no matter what the law makers say it will never over turn what has been in place for years and years. lets fix the real issues..</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Aberdeen</title>
		<link>http://carlosmiller.com/2009/08/05/two-florida-men-face-prison-for-flashing-gang-signs-on-myspace/#comment-14222</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Aberdeen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given all of the funding floating around to help various aspects of the economy, I would like to challenge the Obama Administration to set aside a few billion to help America&#039;s homeless veterans.  This should be a no-brainer non-partisan effort that both conservatives, moderates and liberals could easily embrace without violating their own personal politics.

Link to homeless veterans video:  Most photographs taken on Skid Row Los Angeles in 2006.  There is no reason at all why a nation as wealthy as our own can&#039;t take care of our veterans any better than to leave many of them languishing on Skid Row, often suffering from PTSD and resulting severe sleep deprivation, physical and mental illness.

BOULEVARD
http://freedomtracks.com/videoboulevard.wmv</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given all of the funding floating around to help various aspects of the economy, I would like to challenge the Obama Administration to set aside a few billion to help America&#8217;s homeless veterans.  This should be a no-brainer non-partisan effort that both conservatives, moderates and liberals could easily embrace without violating their own personal politics.</p>
<p>Link to homeless veterans video:  Most photographs taken on Skid Row Los Angeles in 2006.  There is no reason at all why a nation as wealthy as our own can&#8217;t take care of our veterans any better than to leave many of them languishing on Skid Row, often suffering from PTSD and resulting severe sleep deprivation, physical and mental illness.</p>
<p>BOULEVARD<br />
<a href="http://freedomtracks.com/videoboulevard.wmv" rel="nofollow">http://freedomtracks.com/videoboulevard.wmv</a></p>
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		<title>By: Peter, Paul and Mary</title>
		<link>http://carlosmiller.com/2009/08/05/two-florida-men-face-prison-for-flashing-gang-signs-on-myspace/#comment-14220</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter, Paul and Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You want to eliminate gangs, cops?  Legalize all drugs.  Plain and simple.  No more drugs, no more turf wars, no more deaths and no more gangs to deal the drugs because one will be able to go to the store and get what they want.  End of story.  It&#039;s so simple, yet hardly anyone can see.  You won&#039;t end these gangs by violating their rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You want to eliminate gangs, cops?  Legalize all drugs.  Plain and simple.  No more drugs, no more turf wars, no more deaths and no more gangs to deal the drugs because one will be able to go to the store and get what they want.  End of story.  It&#8217;s so simple, yet hardly anyone can see.  You won&#8217;t end these gangs by violating their rights.</p>
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		<title>By: xdamousex</title>
		<link>http://carlosmiller.com/2009/08/05/two-florida-men-face-prison-for-flashing-gang-signs-on-myspace/#comment-14219</link>
		<dc:creator>xdamousex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds to me like Virginia&#039;s tourism agency should be tossed in prison:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20358437/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds to me like Virginia&#8217;s tourism agency should be tossed in prison:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20358437/" rel="nofollow">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20358437/</a></p>
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		<title>By: NYCPhotorights</title>
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		<dc:creator>NYCPhotorights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ HuckFinne:

The logic astounds me sometime. I like horror movies yet I do not go around re-enacting the scenes.  Perhaps that is why I don&#039;t understand the logic behind laws that prohibit comic books or drawings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ HuckFinne:</p>
<p>The logic astounds me sometime. I like horror movies yet I do not go around re-enacting the scenes.  Perhaps that is why I don&#8217;t understand the logic behind laws that prohibit comic books or drawings.</p>
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