Comments on: Virginia woman arrested for blogging about local police officers http://carlosmiller.com/2009/07/29/virginia-women-arrested-for-blogging-about-local-police-officers/ Shining a Light on First Amendment, Media and Police Issues Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:20:02 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Johnny Law http://carlosmiller.com/2009/07/29/virginia-women-arrested-for-blogging-about-local-police-officers/#comment-18630 Johnny Law Sat, 16 Jan 2010 18:59:05 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=7497#comment-18630 AnyMouse, so what is the real story behind your arrest and search of your house? I know there is more to it than you are letting on. AnyMouse, so what is the real story behind your arrest and search of your house? I know there is more to it than you are letting on.

]]> By: Any Mouse http://carlosmiller.com/2009/07/29/virginia-women-arrested-for-blogging-about-local-police-officers/#comment-18627 Any Mouse Sat, 16 Jan 2010 14:34:48 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=7497#comment-18627 I have personal experience with the Charlottesville PD. From what I have seen their opinion is not that they enforce the law, but that they ARE the law. They arrested me (for having a necklace hanging on my rear view mirror) on the UVa campus, then went to my house (in Nelson County), entered it without permission or warrant, tore it apart and took what they liked. Do not challenge these people. Not if you want to live. I have personal experience with the Charlottesville PD. From what I have seen their opinion is not that they enforce the law, but that they ARE the law. They arrested me (for having a necklace hanging on my rear view mirror) on the UVa campus, then went to my house (in Nelson County), entered it without permission or warrant, tore it apart and took what they liked.

Do not challenge these people. Not if you want to live.

]]> By: Big Mike http://carlosmiller.com/2009/07/29/virginia-women-arrested-for-blogging-about-local-police-officers/#comment-14169 Big Mike Wed, 05 Aug 2009 01:41:25 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=7497#comment-14169 Why exactly must she provide a <i>reason</i> for engaging in any business that does not violate a law? I believe the cops in this situation need to provide justifiable reason for engaging in their clearly illegal activity of unlawfully detaining this woman. I haven't clicked any of her links or know anything about it - I don't need to. It was done in public, and doesn't seem to violate the VA stalking statute someone posted. The chick's got a point - if a woman and a camera and a free blog can "endanger" so greatly the activities of these police, what about a couple teams of gang bangers, narcotics traffickers or mafiosi who would have cameras and guns? Perhaps they need to evaluate their behaviors instead of violating her rights. BTW F THE PIGS. Why exactly must she provide a reason for engaging in any business that does not violate a law?

I believe the cops in this situation need to provide justifiable reason for engaging in their clearly illegal activity of unlawfully detaining this woman.

I haven’t clicked any of her links or know anything about it – I don’t need to. It was done in public, and doesn’t seem to violate the VA stalking statute someone posted.

The chick’s got a point – if a woman and a camera and a free blog can “endanger” so greatly the activities of these police, what about a couple teams of gang bangers, narcotics traffickers or mafiosi who would have cameras and guns? Perhaps they need to evaluate their behaviors instead of violating her rights.

BTW F THE PIGS.

]]> By: ThisOne http://carlosmiller.com/2009/07/29/virginia-women-arrested-for-blogging-about-local-police-officers/#comment-14164 ThisOne Tue, 04 Aug 2009 22:09:00 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=7497#comment-14164 This all seems a bit overboard, and without real purpose. I'm for citizens' rights, photographers' rights, and against police misconduct, but I don't see any this brought up as an issue anywhere. The first amendment tie-in may be valid, let's see what ground is broken there, but I don't really know if I'll ever know what her beef with the local narcs is. BTW, is the 'War On Drugs' another one of those wars declared, fought and lost based on non-existent rationale? This all seems a bit overboard, and without real purpose. I’m for citizens’ rights, photographers’ rights, and against police misconduct, but I don’t see any this brought up as an issue anywhere. The first amendment tie-in may be valid, let’s see what ground is broken there, but I don’t really know if I’ll ever know what her beef with the local narcs is.

BTW, is the ‘War On Drugs’ another one of those wars declared, fought and lost based on non-existent rationale?

]]> By: pacific_waters http://carlosmiller.com/2009/07/29/virginia-women-arrested-for-blogging-about-local-police-officers/#comment-14112 pacific_waters Mon, 03 Aug 2009 00:50:18 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=7497#comment-14112 If she has a grudge against them then I would bet it works the other. Cops not above their power for their ends. It's happened more than once. If she has a grudge against them then I would bet it works the other. Cops not above their power for their ends. It’s happened more than once.

]]> By: appmanga http://carlosmiller.com/2009/07/29/virginia-women-arrested-for-blogging-about-local-police-officers/#comment-14018 appmanga Fri, 31 Jul 2009 05:19:54 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=7497#comment-14018 If she's photographing undercover police with the intent of publicizing them and their activities, I would think she's leaning in the direction of obstruction of a LEO, which, in many jurisdictions, is at least a misdemeanor. If she’s photographing undercover police with the intent of publicizing them and their activities, I would think she’s leaning in the direction of obstruction of a LEO, which, in many jurisdictions, is at least a misdemeanor.

]]> By: the change http://carlosmiller.com/2009/07/29/virginia-women-arrested-for-blogging-about-local-police-officers/#comment-14016 the change Fri, 31 Jul 2009 04:24:58 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=7497#comment-14016 shocking, however there is a blog, not the best written on the web about afew judges and the DA in VA and the author to my knowledge has never be contacted about his blog.. shocking, however there is a blog, not the best written on the web about afew judges and the DA in VA and the author to my knowledge has never be contacted about his blog..

]]> By: metasonix http://carlosmiller.com/2009/07/29/virginia-women-arrested-for-blogging-about-local-police-officers/#comment-14015 metasonix Fri, 31 Jul 2009 03:45:29 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=7497#comment-14015 Did you know about Elisha's background? She and her ex-husband were the founders of the now-defunct National Vanguard neo-nazi group...... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Strom http://www.readthehook.com/stories/2008/01/17/NEWS-strom-elisha-C.rtf.aspx They were being tracked by the SPLC. She also has another website, full of racist rants: http://www.angrywhitefemale.net/ This story was so "colorful" I just had to put it on my sarcastic blog: http://shitplanet.org/2009/07/have-you-shaved-your-nutsack-today.html Did you know about Elisha’s background?

She and her ex-husband were the founders of the now-defunct National Vanguard neo-nazi group……

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Strom
http://www.readthehook.com/stories/2008/01/17/NEWS-strom-elisha-C.rtf.aspx

They were being tracked by the SPLC.

She also has another website, full of racist rants:
http://www.angrywhitefemale.net/

This story was so “colorful” I just had to put it on my sarcastic blog:
http://shitplanet.org/2009/07/have-you-shaved-your-nutsack-today.html

]]> By: Kip http://carlosmiller.com/2009/07/29/virginia-women-arrested-for-blogging-about-local-police-officers/#comment-14000 Kip Thu, 30 Jul 2009 23:47:04 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=7497#comment-14000 As a photographer, I have to agree that yes it is legal to photograph them. I don't think they have a real legal standing to bust her unless they go the interfering with an investigation route which would be fairly easy to prove. I also don't agree with the drug war. All of this said, I think that her doing that was irresponsible and not a good judgement call. Just because it's not illegal doesn't mean you should do it. What if some cop had gotten killed because drug runners know who they are where they live? What the cops do often is not right but that doesn't mean they deserve to be put in more danger than they are. Just my two cents. Carlos, keep up the awesome blog. I love this place. As a photographer, I have to agree that yes it is legal to photograph them. I don’t think they have a real legal standing to bust her unless they go the interfering with an investigation route which would be fairly easy to prove. I also don’t agree with the drug war. All of this said, I think that her doing that was irresponsible and not a good judgement call. Just because it’s not illegal doesn’t mean you should do it. What if some cop had gotten killed because drug runners know who they are where they live? What the cops do often is not right but that doesn’t mean they deserve to be put in more danger than they are.

Just my two cents.

Carlos, keep up the awesome blog. I love this place.

]]> By: Michaelk42 http://carlosmiller.com/2009/07/29/virginia-women-arrested-for-blogging-about-local-police-officers/#comment-13997 Michaelk42 Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:59:08 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=7497#comment-13997 @300baud Ah, silly apologist script kiddies. Avast! kept the link from even loading for me. :) @300baud

Ah, silly apologist script kiddies. Avast! kept the link from even loading for me. :)

]]> By: steveo http://carlosmiller.com/2009/07/29/virginia-women-arrested-for-blogging-about-local-police-officers/#comment-13979 steveo Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:13:06 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=7497#comment-13979 Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances, except for Larry Flint, Elisha and other nut jobs. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances, except for Larry Flint, Elisha and other nut jobs.

]]> By: Carlos Miller http://carlosmiller.com/2009/07/29/virginia-women-arrested-for-blogging-about-local-police-officers/#comment-13978 Carlos Miller Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:42:29 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=7497#comment-13978 Thanks for the heads up. 300baud. I deleted the link and blocked his IP address so he can't post here anymore. At least from that one IP address. Thanks for the heads up. 300baud.

I deleted the link and blocked his IP address so he can’t post here anymore. At least from that one IP address.

]]> By: 300baud http://carlosmiller.com/2009/07/29/virginia-women-arrested-for-blogging-about-local-police-officers/#comment-13976 300baud Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:22:20 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=7497#comment-13976 r41's "website" link will, at best, crash your browser. Do not enable plugins or javascript if you investigate it. It is intended to be a "grief" attack. Carlos, would you please remove the link? r41’s “website” link will, at best, crash your browser. Do not enable plugins or javascript if you investigate it. It is intended to be a “grief” attack. Carlos, would you please remove the link?

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