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	<title>Comments on: Grandfather and pregnant woman Tasered at Baptism party in Virginia</title>
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		<title>By: 1776blues</title>
		<link>http://carlosmiller.com/2009/07/29/grandather-and-pregnant-woman-tasered-at-baptism-party-in-virginia/#comment-14153</link>
		<dc:creator>1776blues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 16:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill,

Most who support a police state would find Terry&#039;s coments disgusting and ignorant. Law enforce as a whole nationwide has gone bonkers as they serve their masters who wish to destroy this nation and the freedom it stands for.

Police departments have been militarized and no longer protect and serve. There are many former officers Jack McLamb and Barry Cooper are two who have exposed the their departments for purposely violating constitutional rights of the people, planting evidence, beating suspects, shooting suspects then makining the classic excuse that the officer thought the suspect was armed.

Some try to make a case that police are attacked, shot, or killed at a much higher rate, but when did that start? It most likely started when police started abusing the people they serve.

They have brought much of this on themselves. There are so many things that have happened but one major cause was the money generated by our justice system that is passing laws that criminalize the actions of the people.

This fact I realized when I saw a 7 year old girl in court for truancy about 13 years ago!

Police in my opinion get a free ride to do what they want without reprecussion the majority of the time.

Do a google search and read how many incidents there are of cops using their tasers in situations that did not warrant its use!

Maybe you want to live a police state but most americans don&#039;t.

Which nation has the highest jail and prison population in the world? We do! Jailing someone who did not cause harm to someone is wrong and the assault on the police officer in this case is another trumped up charge used to make a case and stupid juries convict people on the word on these lying cops!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,</p>
<p>Most who support a police state would find Terry&#8217;s coments disgusting and ignorant. Law enforce as a whole nationwide has gone bonkers as they serve their masters who wish to destroy this nation and the freedom it stands for.</p>
<p>Police departments have been militarized and no longer protect and serve. There are many former officers Jack McLamb and Barry Cooper are two who have exposed the their departments for purposely violating constitutional rights of the people, planting evidence, beating suspects, shooting suspects then makining the classic excuse that the officer thought the suspect was armed.</p>
<p>Some try to make a case that police are attacked, shot, or killed at a much higher rate, but when did that start? It most likely started when police started abusing the people they serve.</p>
<p>They have brought much of this on themselves. There are so many things that have happened but one major cause was the money generated by our justice system that is passing laws that criminalize the actions of the people.</p>
<p>This fact I realized when I saw a 7 year old girl in court for truancy about 13 years ago!</p>
<p>Police in my opinion get a free ride to do what they want without reprecussion the majority of the time.</p>
<p>Do a google search and read how many incidents there are of cops using their tasers in situations that did not warrant its use!</p>
<p>Maybe you want to live a police state but most americans don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Which nation has the highest jail and prison population in the world? We do! Jailing someone who did not cause harm to someone is wrong and the assault on the police officer in this case is another trumped up charge used to make a case and stupid juries convict people on the word on these lying cops!</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://carlosmiller.com/2009/07/29/grandather-and-pregnant-woman-tasered-at-baptism-party-in-virginia/#comment-14152</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terry,

I find your indictment of all Virginia law enforcement disgusting and ignorant.

How do you sleep at night? Well, I take it, because Virginia&#039;s crime rate is nothing compared to that of D.C. and Maryland, thanks to our officers in blue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terry,</p>
<p>I find your indictment of all Virginia law enforcement disgusting and ignorant.</p>
<p>How do you sleep at night? Well, I take it, because Virginia&#8217;s crime rate is nothing compared to that of D.C. and Maryland, thanks to our officers in blue.</p>
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		<title>By: 1776blues</title>
		<link>http://carlosmiller.com/2009/07/29/grandather-and-pregnant-woman-tasered-at-baptism-party-in-virginia/#comment-14130</link>
		<dc:creator>1776blues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 17:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps the dumbest comment made was by 10-8, who said this

&quot; Here’s a news flash. Cops who carry tasers are tasered themselves as part of their training. I’ve been tasered many times. It’s no big deal. It’s a far cry from being murdered.&quot;

Though it may be a far cry from being murdered it is still wrong and it is often used by cops out of controlled.&quot;

 So 10-8, are you saying when Cops kill it is MURDER? Thanks for the admission of guilt!

I too feel nothing when the media forces the funeral of a officer, who was killed, down our throats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps the dumbest comment made was by 10-8, who said this</p>
<p>&#8221; Here’s a news flash. Cops who carry tasers are tasered themselves as part of their training. I’ve been tasered many times. It’s no big deal. It’s a far cry from being murdered.&#8221;</p>
<p>Though it may be a far cry from being murdered it is still wrong and it is often used by cops out of controlled.&#8221;</p>
<p> So 10-8, are you saying when Cops kill it is MURDER? Thanks for the admission of guilt!</p>
<p>I too feel nothing when the media forces the funeral of a officer, who was killed, down our throats.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 19:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is not surprising in Virginia.  The law enforcement in this state need to be taken down.  They really are out to get the people.  If the words &quot;To protect and serve&quot; are imprinted on their cars, they need to be removed or the police need to change their ways.  Cops in Virginia are out to get the people.  They don&#039;t care about the citizens at all, and they enforce unconstitutional laws that violate certain rights granted by a higher legislature;  free speech violation is a prime example.  I don&#039;t feel bad for a single virginia cop who dies &quot;in the line of duty.&quot;  They, of all law enforcement, deserve the horrible treatment they get.  All I really have to say is down with the Virginia government and those who uphold it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not surprising in Virginia.  The law enforcement in this state need to be taken down.  They really are out to get the people.  If the words &#8220;To protect and serve&#8221; are imprinted on their cars, they need to be removed or the police need to change their ways.  Cops in Virginia are out to get the people.  They don&#8217;t care about the citizens at all, and they enforce unconstitutional laws that violate certain rights granted by a higher legislature;  free speech violation is a prime example.  I don&#8217;t feel bad for a single virginia cop who dies &#8220;in the line of duty.&#8221;  They, of all law enforcement, deserve the horrible treatment they get.  All I really have to say is down with the Virginia government and those who uphold it.</p>
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		<title>By: Pinandpuller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pinandpuller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>genewitch

I think he was saying viewed from public, like if you are nude sunbathing in your front yard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>genewitch</p>
<p>I think he was saying viewed from public, like if you are nude sunbathing in your front yard.</p>
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		<title>By: genewitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>genewitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aaron @67:

I say again. I can not find state law that says anything about backyards being PUBLIC as it pertains to public intoxication. Perhaps you can cite the relevant code to back up your anecdotal evidence?

CAN NOT FIND THE CODE/ORDINANCE/LAW/ETC: WHERE IS IT? link please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aaron @67:</p>
<p>I say again. I can not find state law that says anything about backyards being PUBLIC as it pertains to public intoxication. Perhaps you can cite the relevant code to back up your anecdotal evidence?</p>
<p>CAN NOT FIND THE CODE/ORDINANCE/LAW/ETC: WHERE IS IT? link please.</p>
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		<title>By: steveo</title>
		<link>http://carlosmiller.com/2009/07/29/grandather-and-pregnant-woman-tasered-at-baptism-party-in-virginia/#comment-14057</link>
		<dc:creator>steveo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/pittsburgh/s_636185.html


I guess the Rodriguez family should feel pretty lucky for getting tased for being noisy. 

This guy was killed by taser by leos and the guy didn&#039;t do anything. 

&quot;Thomas committed no crime before he was shocked and restrained. &quot; said District Attorney.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/pittsburgh/s_636185.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/pittsburgh/s_636185.html</a></p>
<p>I guess the Rodriguez family should feel pretty lucky for getting tased for being noisy. </p>
<p>This guy was killed by taser by leos and the guy didn&#8217;t do anything. </p>
<p>&#8220;Thomas committed no crime before he was shocked and restrained. &#8221; said District Attorney.</p>
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		<title>By: steveo</title>
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		<dc:creator>steveo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>from #58

Plain view should recruit this guy. He knows what to do with 7 yr olds. 

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/jul/31/woman-says-officer-handcuffed-7-year-old/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from #58</p>
<p>Plain view should recruit this guy. He knows what to do with 7 yr olds. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/jul/31/woman-says-officer-handcuffed-7-year-old/" rel="nofollow">http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/jul/31/woman-says-officer-handcuffed-7-year-old/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mathemagician</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mathemagician</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The law enforcement profession does not necessarily attract the brightest of people. I think that much is fair to say. At the very least it is an indication of a problem when such power is given to people who do not necessarily know how to intelligently use it. The language barrier should have been evident to the officer. However, officers are not required to speak more than English.

My point is this: Intelligence tests might be good for quickly weeding out officers who lack reasoning skills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The law enforcement profession does not necessarily attract the brightest of people. I think that much is fair to say. At the very least it is an indication of a problem when such power is given to people who do not necessarily know how to intelligently use it. The language barrier should have been evident to the officer. However, officers are not required to speak more than English.</p>
<p>My point is this: Intelligence tests might be good for quickly weeding out officers who lack reasoning skills.</p>
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		<title>By: Spokker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spokker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And while I absolutely enjoy reading Carlos&#039; blog, I bet if you read nothing but abusive cop stories you&#039;d become pretty jaded. I think you could find just as many stories and videos of people fucking up and the cops being completely in the right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And while I absolutely enjoy reading Carlos&#8217; blog, I bet if you read nothing but abusive cop stories you&#8217;d become pretty jaded. I think you could find just as many stories and videos of people fucking up and the cops being completely in the right.</p>
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		<title>By: Spokker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spokker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is certainly a disturbing incident, but I wonder if these high-profile incidents, where the officer involved should be fired and possibly charged with assault, hurt other officers who are pretty damn good at their jobs.

I say that because I am a young Hispanic male who lives in a not-so-nice city, and the cops I see seem like pretty down to Earth guys and are always friendly to me. I mean, I&#039;ve never felt compelled to scream, &quot;Fuck da police&quot; or anything.

So while these incidents should be investigated fully, I wonder how prevalent it is because most cops I see are pretty cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is certainly a disturbing incident, but I wonder if these high-profile incidents, where the officer involved should be fired and possibly charged with assault, hurt other officers who are pretty damn good at their jobs.</p>
<p>I say that because I am a young Hispanic male who lives in a not-so-nice city, and the cops I see seem like pretty down to Earth guys and are always friendly to me. I mean, I&#8217;ve never felt compelled to scream, &#8220;Fuck da police&#8221; or anything.</p>
<p>So while these incidents should be investigated fully, I wonder how prevalent it is because most cops I see are pretty cool.</p>
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		<title>By: Pinandpuller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pinandpuller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 02:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anonymouse

I&#039;d say an uncontrolled fall to the ground would be the worst aspect of tasing a pregnant woman.  I suppose it depends on what point in the pregnancy it occured and where the barbs stick.  Maybe we should ask a wise Latina about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymouse</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say an uncontrolled fall to the ground would be the worst aspect of tasing a pregnant woman.  I suppose it depends on what point in the pregnancy it occured and where the barbs stick.  Maybe we should ask a wise Latina about it.</p>
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		<title>By: steveo</title>
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		<dc:creator>steveo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 02:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read Carlos&#039; post on the beating of an immigrant in Sarasota by a Leo caught on a police camera.

The city manager and the mayor said that it is of vital importance that the people of the city and county cooperate with law enforcement. 

 That is why they suspended the officers and the police chief. 

They said, &quot; If we lose the trust of the citizens, we may as well close up shop.&quot;  Incidents like this make people extremely distrustful of law enforcement at all socio-economic levels. 

We don&#039;t hate police. We just want you to be as mindful of our rights, as you are of your own and don&#039;t lie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read Carlos&#8217; post on the beating of an immigrant in Sarasota by a Leo caught on a police camera.</p>
<p>The city manager and the mayor said that it is of vital importance that the people of the city and county cooperate with law enforcement. </p>
<p> That is why they suspended the officers and the police chief. </p>
<p>They said, &#8221; If we lose the trust of the citizens, we may as well close up shop.&#8221;  Incidents like this make people extremely distrustful of law enforcement at all socio-economic levels. </p>
<p>We don&#8217;t hate police. We just want you to be as mindful of our rights, as you are of your own and don&#8217;t lie.</p>
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