Comments on: Iraq vet fights repression abroad only to find it back home http://carlosmiller.com/2009/07/12/iraq-vet-fights-repression-abroad-only-to-find-it-back-home/ Shining a Light on First Amendment, Media and Police Issues Tue, 16 Mar 2010 11:05:31 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: bj http://carlosmiller.com/2009/07/12/iraq-vet-fights-repression-abroad-only-to-find-it-back-home/#comment-13360 bj Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:48:15 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=7241#comment-13360 Found bit more information. http://www.peshtigotimes.net/?id=11845 3rd letter down. Found bit more information.

http://www.peshtigotimes.net/?id=11845

3rd letter down.

]]> By: xdamousex http://carlosmiller.com/2009/07/12/iraq-vet-fights-repression-abroad-only-to-find-it-back-home/#comment-13358 xdamousex Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:54:48 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=7241#comment-13358 @Wicked Feleena: Sounds like the perfect loophole to get around that pesky first amendment. Why, we're doing it to protect him! IT'S FOR HIS OWN GOOD! <i>The rising temper and anxiety of the large volume of people in the immediate area quickly reached near riot conditions.</i> Near-riot in Crivitz = some guy saying "Why does that durn fool have to fly our flag like that" @Wicked Feleena: Sounds like the perfect loophole to get around that pesky first amendment. Why, we’re doing it to protect him! IT’S FOR HIS OWN GOOD!

The rising temper and anxiety of the large volume of people in the immediate area quickly reached near riot conditions.

Near-riot in Crivitz = some guy saying “Why does that durn fool have to fly our flag like that”

]]> By: Jay http://carlosmiller.com/2009/07/12/iraq-vet-fights-repression-abroad-only-to-find-it-back-home/#comment-13354 Jay Mon, 13 Jul 2009 07:38:43 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=7241#comment-13354 Ariel #8, You get the exact point. I don't believe I would ever burn our flag, but I'll be damned in someone is going to tell me I'm not allowed to do so. It's the entire point of the 1st Amendment. Ariel #8,

You get the exact point. I don’t believe I would ever burn our flag, but I’ll be damned in someone is going to tell me I’m not allowed to do so. It’s the entire point of the 1st Amendment.

]]> By: Ariel http://carlosmiller.com/2009/07/12/iraq-vet-fights-repression-abroad-only-to-find-it-back-home/#comment-13350 Ariel Mon, 13 Jul 2009 02:54:46 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=7241#comment-13350 I'll start off by writing that I care neither for flag-burning nor this use of flying-in-distress. However, my feelings do not matter. We based this country on inherent rights, not given rights. Free speech, specifically political, does not have to meet my or even your sensibilities. In fact, much the opposite, it may offend, sometimes it must offend. I hope he wins his case. (And I will still criticize those who protest in this manner, as is my right.) I’ll start off by writing that I care neither for flag-burning nor this use of flying-in-distress. However, my feelings do not matter. We based this country on inherent rights, not given rights. Free speech, specifically political, does not have to meet my or even your sensibilities. In fact, much the opposite, it may offend, sometimes it must offend.
I hope he wins his case. (And I will still criticize those who protest in this manner, as is my right.)

]]> By: MillerTime http://carlosmiller.com/2009/07/12/iraq-vet-fights-repression-abroad-only-to-find-it-back-home/#comment-13349 MillerTime Mon, 13 Jul 2009 02:01:22 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=7241#comment-13349 Maybe he can start a website called Flying the American Flag Upside is not a Crime, It's a First Amendment Right and raise money for his bar. Maybe he can start a website called Flying the American Flag Upside is not a Crime, It’s a First Amendment Right and raise money for his bar.

]]> By: Jay http://carlosmiller.com/2009/07/12/iraq-vet-fights-repression-abroad-only-to-find-it-back-home/#comment-13341 Jay Sun, 12 Jul 2009 19:54:00 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=7241#comment-13341 AARRGGHH. This is a textbook case of a pure violation of Freedom of Speech. This is *exactly* the type of speech that is supposed to be protected, no matter how unpopular it might be. Chris #4, I completely agree. NYCPhotorights #5, that would be a very, very interesting investigation since this is such a small town. Everyone reading knows this, but repeat after me: The Constitution isn't a suggestion to use if you feel like it. I close with AARRGGHH. AARRGGHH. This is a textbook case of a pure violation of Freedom of Speech. This is *exactly* the type of speech that is supposed to be protected, no matter how unpopular it might be.

Chris #4, I completely agree.
NYCPhotorights #5, that would be a very, very interesting investigation since this is such a small town.

Everyone reading knows this, but repeat after me: The Constitution isn’t a suggestion to use if you feel like it.

I close with AARRGGHH.

]]> By: NYCPhotorights http://carlosmiller.com/2009/07/12/iraq-vet-fights-repression-abroad-only-to-find-it-back-home/#comment-13339 NYCPhotorights Sun, 12 Jul 2009 15:40:25 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=7241#comment-13339 I wonder if the people who run the Town of Crivitz also own or have an interest in competing restaurants which is why they are preventing him from getting a liquor license? They should all be investigated for that as well. I wonder if the people who run the Town of Crivitz also own or have an interest in competing restaurants which is why they are preventing him from getting a liquor license? They should all be investigated for that as well.

]]> By: Chris http://carlosmiller.com/2009/07/12/iraq-vet-fights-repression-abroad-only-to-find-it-back-home/#comment-13338 Chris Sun, 12 Jul 2009 15:11:14 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=7241#comment-13338 Correct me if I am wrong, but shouldn't the cops have arrested those people that were threatening bodily harm? Isn't that their job to PROTECT? Correct me if I am wrong, but shouldn’t the cops have arrested those people that were threatening bodily harm? Isn’t that their job to PROTECT?

]]> By: Chris http://carlosmiller.com/2009/07/12/iraq-vet-fights-repression-abroad-only-to-find-it-back-home/#comment-13337 Chris Sun, 12 Jul 2009 15:10:56 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=7241#comment-13337 Correct me if I am wrong, but shouldn't the cops have arrested those people that were threatening bodily harm? Isn't that there job to PROTECT? Correct me if I am wrong, but shouldn’t the cops have arrested those people that were threatening bodily harm? Isn’t that there job to PROTECT?

]]> By: Wicked Feleena http://carlosmiller.com/2009/07/12/iraq-vet-fights-repression-abroad-only-to-find-it-back-home/#comment-13323 Wicked Feleena Sun, 12 Jul 2009 06:20:19 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=7241#comment-13323 <a href="http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/assets/pdf/U0138358710.PDF" rel="nofollow">Official Press Release</a> There were threats of property damage and violence. Sounds like distress to me. Official Press Release

There were threats of property damage and violence. Sounds like distress to me.

]]> By: Catinthewall http://carlosmiller.com/2009/07/12/iraq-vet-fights-repression-abroad-only-to-find-it-back-home/#comment-13322 Catinthewall Sun, 12 Jul 2009 05:39:08 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=7241#comment-13322 I am getting really sick of these hypocritical statements from people who seem to think that they have the right to declare exemptions from established laws. "You have free speech, you just can't say that. You can protest, but only in ways I permit. You can photograph what you want, just not that." A $200k lawsuit? perfect idea, and perhaps he'd be able to settle for the liquor license. I am getting really sick of these hypocritical statements from people who seem to think that they have the right to declare exemptions from established laws. “You have free speech, you just can’t say that. You can protest, but only in ways I permit. You can photograph what you want, just not that.”
A $200k lawsuit? perfect idea, and perhaps he’d be able to settle for the liquor license.

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