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	<title>Comments on: Texas cop uses Taser gun on man too slow to provide proof of insurance</title>
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		<title>By: Kylie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kylie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 15:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just saw something on Surviving the World that I think fits this story (and many others) quite well. Check it out: http://survivingtheworld.net/Lesson388.html

And no, I am not connected with STW in any way other than being a regular reader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just saw something on Surviving the World that I think fits this story (and many others) quite well. Check it out: <a href="http://survivingtheworld.net/Lesson388.html" rel="nofollow">http://survivingtheworld.net/Lesson388.html</a></p>
<p>And no, I am not connected with STW in any way other than being a regular reader.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Molecule</title>
		<link>http://carlosmiller.com/2009/07/07/texas-cop-uses-taser-gun-on-man-too-slow-to-provide-proof-of-insurance/#comment-13314</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Molecule</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 13:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was pulled over for going 5 miles above the speed limit in Texas. He claimed I was going 65 in a 60 (60? I&#039;m pretty sure it was 65) But I know I was actually going 60 because my car did not go faster than that. I suspect that is just a common excuse to pull someone over in Texas when they have no other reason. The real reason appeared to be my New York State plates. And this was also right at the border as I was leaving. I could see the &quot;Welcome to Arkansas&quot; sign from where I was pulled over. He brought the dog out and everything, searched the whole car. He asked if he could search the trunk, but trying to answer no brought him to repeat the question. I gave in as it was late at night with almost no traffic and big dude with a gun and a dog had already lied to me about why he pulled me over. Who knew what else he would fabricate? The situation was overall terrifying as I had done nothing to be in that situation except have the gall to cross state lines to travel. I ended up being let go with a written warning. Just stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was pulled over for going 5 miles above the speed limit in Texas. He claimed I was going 65 in a 60 (60? I&#8217;m pretty sure it was 65) But I know I was actually going 60 because my car did not go faster than that. I suspect that is just a common excuse to pull someone over in Texas when they have no other reason. The real reason appeared to be my New York State plates. And this was also right at the border as I was leaving. I could see the &#8220;Welcome to Arkansas&#8221; sign from where I was pulled over. He brought the dog out and everything, searched the whole car. He asked if he could search the trunk, but trying to answer no brought him to repeat the question. I gave in as it was late at night with almost no traffic and big dude with a gun and a dog had already lied to me about why he pulled me over. Who knew what else he would fabricate? The situation was overall terrifying as I had done nothing to be in that situation except have the gall to cross state lines to travel. I ended up being let go with a written warning. Just stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: Behind Enemy Lines</title>
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		<dc:creator>Behind Enemy Lines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 07:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey jones, 

After read one, a couple, of your comments, it sounds to me that you idolize cops or feel that at any point in time they are justified to do whatever they please.  New flash:  The first thing an officer is going to say is &quot;the car was reported stolen&quot;.  Remember, I work with these chuckle heads.  But, you&#039;re right, somebody felt it was better to taser than to shoot.  But guess what, tasing incidents out numbers shooting.  IT NOT JUSTIFIABLE.  Also, I saw the video myself and in no way was the person raising his LEFT HAND to the officer.  The officer asked for his info on the car and the person had to get it.  Now I don&#039;t know where you keep your insurance information but the majority of the public keeps it in the glove compartment.  And if you have a habit of shoving everything else in it, yeah! it&#039;s going take a little bit to find it.  And here&#039;s something you probably didn&#039;t know:  if you ask an officer why he or she is stopping you, he or she has to tell you.  The officer stopped the person for going 5 miles over the speed limit.  If that was the case then he should have stopped at least 100 cars before he stopped this particular one.  States (just about all) allow up to 10 miles over the speed limit.  Just as long as you, the driver, isn&#039;t weaving in and out of traffic.  And that&#039;s even if you are going the speed limit.  But to be fair to the cop:  if he felt that the car was stolen, HE should have called for back up, especial on a highway.  Heck, nowadays, some cops call for back up on a simple traffic stop.

I got stopped by a cop on time.  Why?  Because I past him.  He said he was doing 65 and I MUST to have been doing 70.  I told him that I was told as long as you are going with the flow of traffic, no problem.  He wanted to know who told me this.  I said the cops that I work with.  He asked where did I work.  I said with the DA&#039;s office.  Only then did he see my work ID hanging from my mirror.  I still gave my proof of insurance and registation.  You know what he said:  It was MY lucky day, he forgot his ticket book.  Heck maybe he did; but he also realize he wasn&#039;t dealing with a fool.  I know just enough and I do work with attorneys.  The officer on his part, had no name tag or anything, just a uniform and a bike.  Oh and by the way, an officer has to have his or her name tag on their uniform.  If they don&#039;t, they&#039;re in violation of the rules.

To say all this, a lot of officers do what they do because, again, they feel they should be worshipped and that they are above the laws themselves.  And they go after people who they feel don&#039;t know their rights.  And to say, that&#039;s a a lot of people.  The law is for anyone except them.  Open season anyone?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey jones, </p>
<p>After read one, a couple, of your comments, it sounds to me that you idolize cops or feel that at any point in time they are justified to do whatever they please.  New flash:  The first thing an officer is going to say is &#8220;the car was reported stolen&#8221;.  Remember, I work with these chuckle heads.  But, you&#8217;re right, somebody felt it was better to taser than to shoot.  But guess what, tasing incidents out numbers shooting.  IT NOT JUSTIFIABLE.  Also, I saw the video myself and in no way was the person raising his LEFT HAND to the officer.  The officer asked for his info on the car and the person had to get it.  Now I don&#8217;t know where you keep your insurance information but the majority of the public keeps it in the glove compartment.  And if you have a habit of shoving everything else in it, yeah! it&#8217;s going take a little bit to find it.  And here&#8217;s something you probably didn&#8217;t know:  if you ask an officer why he or she is stopping you, he or she has to tell you.  The officer stopped the person for going 5 miles over the speed limit.  If that was the case then he should have stopped at least 100 cars before he stopped this particular one.  States (just about all) allow up to 10 miles over the speed limit.  Just as long as you, the driver, isn&#8217;t weaving in and out of traffic.  And that&#8217;s even if you are going the speed limit.  But to be fair to the cop:  if he felt that the car was stolen, HE should have called for back up, especial on a highway.  Heck, nowadays, some cops call for back up on a simple traffic stop.</p>
<p>I got stopped by a cop on time.  Why?  Because I past him.  He said he was doing 65 and I MUST to have been doing 70.  I told him that I was told as long as you are going with the flow of traffic, no problem.  He wanted to know who told me this.  I said the cops that I work with.  He asked where did I work.  I said with the DA&#8217;s office.  Only then did he see my work ID hanging from my mirror.  I still gave my proof of insurance and registation.  You know what he said:  It was MY lucky day, he forgot his ticket book.  Heck maybe he did; but he also realize he wasn&#8217;t dealing with a fool.  I know just enough and I do work with attorneys.  The officer on his part, had no name tag or anything, just a uniform and a bike.  Oh and by the way, an officer has to have his or her name tag on their uniform.  If they don&#8217;t, they&#8217;re in violation of the rules.</p>
<p>To say all this, a lot of officers do what they do because, again, they feel they should be worshipped and that they are above the laws themselves.  And they go after people who they feel don&#8217;t know their rights.  And to say, that&#8217;s a a lot of people.  The law is for anyone except them.  Open season anyone?!</p>
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		<title>By: Behind Enemy Lines</title>
		<link>http://carlosmiller.com/2009/07/07/texas-cop-uses-taser-gun-on-man-too-slow-to-provide-proof-of-insurance/#comment-13312</link>
		<dc:creator>Behind Enemy Lines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 06:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People are outraged but it&#039;s the people who give these clowns guns and tasers to want to actually do something about it, and they don&#039;t.  What someone people don&#039;t realize is that THEY are the ones with the power.  Now you can&#039;t vote who become a cop but you can vote on who becomes the head honchos.  Make enough noise and hold them accountable.  I shed no tears when a cop gets shot (sorry).  But if I know them personally, maybe and that depends what kind of person they really are.  I know some really good cops, they know they don&#039;t always have to make an arrest to prove a point.  And I know some bad cops, they feel they should be worshipped.  And it&#039;s the bad cops that overshadow the good ones.  And the head honchos who don&#039;t want to do anything.  Well...it&#039;ll be open season on cops soon.  Wow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People are outraged but it&#8217;s the people who give these clowns guns and tasers to want to actually do something about it, and they don&#8217;t.  What someone people don&#8217;t realize is that THEY are the ones with the power.  Now you can&#8217;t vote who become a cop but you can vote on who becomes the head honchos.  Make enough noise and hold them accountable.  I shed no tears when a cop gets shot (sorry).  But if I know them personally, maybe and that depends what kind of person they really are.  I know some really good cops, they know they don&#8217;t always have to make an arrest to prove a point.  And I know some bad cops, they feel they should be worshipped.  And it&#8217;s the bad cops that overshadow the good ones.  And the head honchos who don&#8217;t want to do anything.  Well&#8230;it&#8217;ll be open season on cops soon.  Wow.</p>
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		<title>By: Nemo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nemo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 17:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ariel: 

Good link, and good on Art Acevedo for making a stand against that sort of thing.  I credit him, because of the implication from the comments that he&#039;s trying to initiate a policy change in the APD.

I try to follow Karl&#039;s blog, as I think it&#039;s a good one, but (sorry Karl) the formatting is problematic - in IE I can&#039;t really seem to get the new stories at a glance, I gotta massage it through the calendar.  I&#039;ll check it out after posting this.

Good point about the training, it&#039;s one I&#039;ve tried to make before (tie in the mental preparedness - always helps if you know it&#039;s coming), but you made it more succinct, and funnier, too  :-P   I tend to the verbose, as you&#039;ve likely noticed.
I hate you forever for one-upping me  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ariel: </p>
<p>Good link, and good on Art Acevedo for making a stand against that sort of thing.  I credit him, because of the implication from the comments that he&#8217;s trying to initiate a policy change in the APD.</p>
<p>I try to follow Karl&#8217;s blog, as I think it&#8217;s a good one, but (sorry Karl) the formatting is problematic &#8211; in IE I can&#8217;t really seem to get the new stories at a glance, I gotta massage it through the calendar.  I&#8217;ll check it out after posting this.</p>
<p>Good point about the training, it&#8217;s one I&#8217;ve tried to make before (tie in the mental preparedness &#8211; always helps if you know it&#8217;s coming), but you made it more succinct, and funnier, too  <img src='http://carlosmiller.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' />    I tend to the verbose, as you&#8217;ve likely noticed.<br />
I hate you forever for one-upping me  <img src='http://carlosmiller.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Karl Mansoor</title>
		<link>http://carlosmiller.com/2009/07/07/texas-cop-uses-taser-gun-on-man-too-slow-to-provide-proof-of-insurance/#comment-13268</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl Mansoor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 14:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ariel #40,

Good point - and funny too!

Not only two guys keeping you from falling but also a comfortable padded surface as one is gently eased down by friends. No repeat cycles either and you probably can go chug down a beer or two afterward. 

Pure scientific safety testing in action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ariel #40,</p>
<p>Good point &#8211; and funny too!</p>
<p>Not only two guys keeping you from falling but also a comfortable padded surface as one is gently eased down by friends. No repeat cycles either and you probably can go chug down a beer or two afterward. </p>
<p>Pure scientific safety testing in action.</p>
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		<title>By: Ariel</title>
		<link>http://carlosmiller.com/2009/07/07/texas-cop-uses-taser-gun-on-man-too-slow-to-provide-proof-of-insurance/#comment-13264</link>
		<dc:creator>Ariel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 14:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pinandpuller #39,

You&#039;re likely right. My mistake. I thought there was always two guys just behind and to your sides to make sure you didn&#039;t fall. No?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pinandpuller #39,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re likely right. My mistake. I thought there was always two guys just behind and to your sides to make sure you didn&#8217;t fall. No?</p>
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		<title>By: Pinandpuller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pinandpuller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 10:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The taser doesn&#039;t directly leave a mark but when someone has an uncontrolled fall to the pavement that&#039;s gonna leave a mark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The taser doesn&#8217;t directly leave a mark but when someone has an uncontrolled fall to the pavement that&#8217;s gonna leave a mark.</p>
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		<title>By: Ariel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ariel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 02:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, read my #36 and realized someone could read that link as being K. Mansoor&#039;s wording. It isn&#039;t, its mine.  His post &quot;Police Transparency and accountability in action&quot; at Blue Must be True is in praise of the Austin PD by the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, read my #36 and realized someone could read that link as being K. Mansoor&#8217;s wording. It isn&#8217;t, its mine.  His post &#8220;Police Transparency and accountability in action&#8221; at Blue Must be True is in praise of the Austin PD by the way.</p>
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