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		<title>By: Alex Frazier</title>
		<link>http://carlosmiller.com/2009/05/15/apply-for-your-homeland-security-photography-license-here/#comment-35570</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Frazier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 04:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I realize this was primarily a 2009 thread, but I can&#039;t help contributing and commenting on a few things that really struck me.

One thing that is important to say is that it doesn&#039;t matter if something is illegal or not. An officer will arrest you if he or she feels like doing so. You really can&#039;t stop it. It&#039;s up to a judge to throw it out if someone is going to do so.
I don&#039;t mention this as a matter of legal knowledge, but of practical experience. In my town at least, cops do what they damn well please.

Sheepdog: - Cops break more laws than criminals do, even in small towns. They have no respect for civil rights. I have witnessed on more than one occassion a police officer saying to someone, &quot;One more word and you&#039;re going to jail.&quot; As if you guys can actually arrest someone for speaking. Though, of course, you don&#039;t. You arrest them for drunk and disorderly, or some other nonsense charge.
Funny that, because in South Carolina, it&#039;s a felony for an officer to arrest someone for a crime other than what they are actually arresting them for, as it is also a felony to refuse to state the charge.
I don&#039;t know if you&#039;re a police officer or not. If you are, you ought to get your head out of your ass. You are here to protect and serve, not bust heads. The president has sworn to uphold the constitution. As an officer of our government, regardless of how far down on the ladder you are, you are an extension of his authority, which binds you to that same oath.

Start doing your job. You were not hired to be a thug, a force of one, the inquisition, or the cunt you seem to be.

Vidiot:- Your ID idea is genius. A simple ID (no more fraudulent than a school ID) that has your picture, your name, address, and any other information you feel is relevant, and any direct statements of law relevant to photography in public or private domains. That would be jam up. Someone tries to stop you, pull out the card and read them the law.
Of course, it might get taken . . . but what can you do!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realize this was primarily a 2009 thread, but I can&#8217;t help contributing and commenting on a few things that really struck me.</p>
<p>One thing that is important to say is that it doesn&#8217;t matter if something is illegal or not. An officer will arrest you if he or she feels like doing so. You really can&#8217;t stop it. It&#8217;s up to a judge to throw it out if someone is going to do so.<br />
I don&#8217;t mention this as a matter of legal knowledge, but of practical experience. In my town at least, cops do what they damn well please.</p>
<p>Sheepdog: &#8211; Cops break more laws than criminals do, even in small towns. They have no respect for civil rights. I have witnessed on more than one occassion a police officer saying to someone, &#8220;One more word and you&#8217;re going to jail.&#8221; As if you guys can actually arrest someone for speaking. Though, of course, you don&#8217;t. You arrest them for drunk and disorderly, or some other nonsense charge.<br />
Funny that, because in South Carolina, it&#8217;s a felony for an officer to arrest someone for a crime other than what they are actually arresting them for, as it is also a felony to refuse to state the charge.<br />
I don&#8217;t know if you&#8217;re a police officer or not. If you are, you ought to get your head out of your ass. You are here to protect and serve, not bust heads. The president has sworn to uphold the constitution. As an officer of our government, regardless of how far down on the ladder you are, you are an extension of his authority, which binds you to that same oath.</p>
<p>Start doing your job. You were not hired to be a thug, a force of one, the inquisition, or the cunt you seem to be.</p>
<p>Vidiot:- Your ID idea is genius. A simple ID (no more fraudulent than a school ID) that has your picture, your name, address, and any other information you feel is relevant, and any direct statements of law relevant to photography in public or private domains. That would be jam up. Someone tries to stop you, pull out the card and read them the law.<br />
Of course, it might get taken . . . but what can you do!</p>
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		<title>By: LCPL DuBois</title>
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		<dc:creator>LCPL DuBois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 17:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It must be made clear, that yes, it is a given American right to photograph at will, but there are also privacy and protection acts for the Safety of peace officers and/or Government employees</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It must be made clear, that yes, it is a given American right to photograph at will, but there are also privacy and protection acts for the Safety of peace officers and/or Government employees</p>
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		<title>By: Samsumner</title>
		<link>http://carlosmiller.com/2009/05/15/apply-for-your-homeland-security-photography-license-here/#comment-12480</link>
		<dc:creator>Samsumner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still want to know where to find a copy of the &quot;original&quot; graphics file. While I would remove the DHS Logo and references, the volunteer organization (duly authorized) that I serve with could really use new ID cards. If anyone knows where go obtain this file, I would appreciate your assistance. THANKS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still want to know where to find a copy of the &#8220;original&#8221; graphics file. While I would remove the DHS Logo and references, the volunteer organization (duly authorized) that I serve with could really use new ID cards. If anyone knows where go obtain this file, I would appreciate your assistance. THANKS!</p>
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		<title>By: bj</title>
		<link>http://carlosmiller.com/2009/05/15/apply-for-your-homeland-security-photography-license-here/#comment-11776</link>
		<dc:creator>bj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 18:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OTOH, it does cut down on the anonymous clowns claiming to be cops.

Thats the truth!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OTOH, it does cut down on the anonymous clowns claiming to be cops.</p>
<p>Thats the truth!</p>
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		<title>By: Michaelk42</title>
		<link>http://carlosmiller.com/2009/05/15/apply-for-your-homeland-security-photography-license-here/#comment-11775</link>
		<dc:creator>Michaelk42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 18:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But I believe he should be raided for making people register before they can comment on his damn blog.&quot;

OTOH, it does cut down on the anonymous clowns claiming to be cops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But I believe he should be raided for making people register before they can comment on his damn blog.&#8221;</p>
<p>OTOH, it does cut down on the anonymous clowns claiming to be cops.</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlos Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 05:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But I believe he should be raided for making people register before they can comment on his damn blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But I believe he should be raided for making people register before they can comment on his damn blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlos Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 05:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matthew Hussein Williams re-posted the license back on his site, but this time, after seeking the advice of a lawyer, he added the following disclaimer.

So I guess he won&#039;t be raided after all. 

&lt;em&gt;This license is intended as art and political commentary in that one does not need a license to take photographs. This license is not an official government-issued document, nor is it intended as an imitation of an official government document, and it should not be used as such. The author expressly disclaims all liability for any use to which this artwork is put. This license is a work of fiction and is not to be used as official identification or authorization. Know your rights, and please support the American Civil Liberties Union and the Electronic Frontier Foundation.
Posted by matthew on 05/14 at 04:05 PM &lt;/em&gt;

http://www.matthewwilliamsdesign.com/weblog/index.php/site/comments/muni_dont_take_my_kodachrome/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matthew Hussein Williams re-posted the license back on his site, but this time, after seeking the advice of a lawyer, he added the following disclaimer.</p>
<p>So I guess he won&#8217;t be raided after all. </p>
<p><em>This license is intended as art and political commentary in that one does not need a license to take photographs. This license is not an official government-issued document, nor is it intended as an imitation of an official government document, and it should not be used as such. The author expressly disclaims all liability for any use to which this artwork is put. This license is a work of fiction and is not to be used as official identification or authorization. Know your rights, and please support the American Civil Liberties Union and the Electronic Frontier Foundation.<br />
Posted by matthew on 05/14 at 04:05 PM </em></p>
<p><a href="http://www.matthewwilliamsdesign.com/weblog/index.php/site/comments/muni_dont_take_my_kodachrome/" rel="nofollow">http://www.matthewwilliamsdesign.com/weblog/index.php/site/comments/muni_dont_take_my_kodachrome/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ariel</title>
		<link>http://carlosmiller.com/2009/05/15/apply-for-your-homeland-security-photography-license-here/#comment-11540</link>
		<dc:creator>Ariel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 02:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duane,

given the cops that are suing because their names were released under a public information request, I&#039;ll believe anything. Right now I can find the name of every AZ cop in about 30 seconds.

They&#039;re public employees, their names and badge numbers should be readily available. Their home address only with good reason, the same as mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duane,</p>
<p>given the cops that are suing because their names were released under a public information request, I&#8217;ll believe anything. Right now I can find the name of every AZ cop in about 30 seconds.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re public employees, their names and badge numbers should be readily available. Their home address only with good reason, the same as mine.</p>
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		<title>By: Duane Kerzic</title>
		<link>http://carlosmiller.com/2009/05/15/apply-for-your-homeland-security-photography-license-here/#comment-11537</link>
		<dc:creator>Duane Kerzic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 01:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ariel,

I wasn&#039;t that clear in my post. I was trying to be a bit sarcastic and got distracted. Of course no cops should be allowed to testify from behind a curtain. Like most things what starts as a good idea gets taken to far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ariel,</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t that clear in my post. I was trying to be a bit sarcastic and got distracted. Of course no cops should be allowed to testify from behind a curtain. Like most things what starts as a good idea gets taken to far.</p>
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