Comments on: Here’s the video of Arizona pastor getting tazed and dragged out of car http://carlosmiller.com/2009/05/12/heres-the-video-of-arizona-pastor-getting-tazed-and-dragged-out-of-car/ It's a First Amendment Right Fri, 10 Sep 2010 04:34:05 +0000 hourly 1 By: Rail Car Fan http://carlosmiller.com/2009/05/12/heres-the-video-of-arizona-pastor-getting-tazed-and-dragged-out-of-car/#comment-28372 Rail Car Fan Tue, 08 Jun 2010 19:40:50 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=6504#comment-28372 Here's another one of those.. "If you've got nothing to hide" people that just irk me to no end. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he was a "Yes Dear.. No Dear" henpecked husband who bows down to his wife's every whim. It must be embarrassing for people like that to be willing to give up not only some of their rights.. but their manhood as well! When are they going to understand, if ever, that giving up rights and submitting just because you're told to do so, leads to more and more being taken away? Rail Car Fan Here’s another one of those.. “If you’ve got nothing to hide” people that just irk me to no end.

I wouldn’t be surprised at all if he was a “Yes Dear.. No Dear” henpecked husband who bows down to his wife’s every whim.

It must be embarrassing for people like that to be willing to give up not only some of their rights.. but their manhood as well!

When are they going to understand, if ever, that giving up rights and submitting just because you’re told to do so, leads to more and more being taken away?

Rail Car Fan

]]> By: Rail Car Fan http://carlosmiller.com/2009/05/12/heres-the-video-of-arizona-pastor-getting-tazed-and-dragged-out-of-car/#comment-28371 Rail Car Fan Tue, 08 Jun 2010 19:28:37 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=6504#comment-28371 Zach.. "Most of you are complete MORONS." Isn't it interesting that those who have little or NO facts to back up a argument, tend to call others who question what they've said.. NAMES!? Rail Car Fan Zach.. “Most of you are complete MORONS.”

Isn’t it interesting that those who have little or NO facts to back up a argument, tend to call others who question what they’ve said.. NAMES!?

Rail Car Fan

]]> By: Rail Car Fan http://carlosmiller.com/2009/05/12/heres-the-video-of-arizona-pastor-getting-tazed-and-dragged-out-of-car/#comment-28370 Rail Car Fan Tue, 08 Jun 2010 19:18:59 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=6504#comment-28370 It's obvious from the posters name, ie: LEO, that we couldn't expect anything different in what he said. Yep.. the thin Blue Line stands behind its own, no matter if they're in the wrong or not! And you people (LEO's) wonder why you're hated so much here. Rail Car Fan It’s obvious from the posters name, ie: LEO, that we couldn’t expect anything different in what he said.

Yep.. the thin Blue Line stands behind its own, no matter if they’re in the wrong or not!

And you people (LEO’s) wonder why you’re hated so much here.

Rail Car Fan

]]> By: Rail Car Fan http://carlosmiller.com/2009/05/12/heres-the-video-of-arizona-pastor-getting-tazed-and-dragged-out-of-car/#comment-28369 Rail Car Fan Tue, 08 Jun 2010 19:12:54 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=6504#comment-28369 So let's see now. Hmmmmm. If the Officer(?) felt it was "reasonable" (in his eyes, obviously), to.. SHOOT the guy, then in your eyes it would be OK? You know.. I've NEVER sworn on any post I've ever made here, but this will be a FIRST. Jones.. You're an ASS!! Grrrrrrrr Rail Car Fan So let’s see now. Hmmmmm.

If the Officer(?) felt it was “reasonable” (in his eyes, obviously), to..

SHOOT

the guy, then in your eyes it would be OK?

You know.. I’ve NEVER sworn on any post I’ve ever made here, but this will be a FIRST.

Jones.. You’re an ASS!! Grrrrrrrr

Rail Car Fan

]]> By: CKSU10 http://carlosmiller.com/2009/05/12/heres-the-video-of-arizona-pastor-getting-tazed-and-dragged-out-of-car/#comment-16806 CKSU10 Sat, 14 Nov 2009 04:33:13 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=6504#comment-16806 This moron deserved what he got. He was tased, not beaten, and none of this would have happened had he simply cooperated with the police. Most people with nothing to hide would have cooperated, so of course he drew suspicion to himself! And this man has the nerve to call himself a pastor?? He's an example alright- a perfect example of what NOT to do... idiot. This moron deserved what he got. He was tased, not beaten, and none of this would have happened had he simply cooperated with the police. Most people with nothing to hide would have cooperated, so of course he drew suspicion to himself! And this man has the nerve to call himself a pastor?? He’s an example alright- a perfect example of what NOT to do… idiot.

]]> By: John http://carlosmiller.com/2009/05/12/heres-the-video-of-arizona-pastor-getting-tazed-and-dragged-out-of-car/#comment-14751 John Sun, 30 Aug 2009 03:25:42 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=6504#comment-14751 OMG Jones again.... Won't matter even if you have proof, Jones will just ignore it.... He says hes a former LEO, but looks to be more troll than anything. He doesn't have a problem with the cop doing anything REASONABLE to get him out of the car. Is it really reasonable to taser a guy, and take a chance of KILLING him, just because he didn't get out of the car fast enough until he was told what he was arrested for? He could have also requested a superior/supervisor too, besides having the dog come back to confirm the alert. Its cops like this & Jones that make it harder on my relation & friends that are LEO's. OMG Jones again….

Won’t matter even if you have proof, Jones will just ignore it….

He says hes a former LEO, but looks to be more troll than anything.

He doesn’t have a problem with the cop doing anything REASONABLE to get him out of the car.

Is it really reasonable to taser a guy, and take a chance of KILLING him, just because he didn’t get out of the car fast enough until he was told what he was arrested for?

He could have also requested a superior/supervisor too, besides having the dog come back to confirm the alert.

Its cops like this & Jones that make it harder on my relation & friends that are LEO’s.

]]> By: Pinandpuller http://carlosmiller.com/2009/05/12/heres-the-video-of-arizona-pastor-getting-tazed-and-dragged-out-of-car/#comment-11682 Pinandpuller Wed, 20 May 2009 03:10:57 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=6504#comment-11682 What I think is funny-having seen several of these internal checkpoint Youtube videos-is that many of the officers asking people about their citizenship sound like they got their permanent residency last Jueves. What I think is funny-having seen several of these internal checkpoint Youtube videos-is that many of the officers asking people about their citizenship sound like they got their permanent residency last Jueves.

]]> By: Voice of Reason http://carlosmiller.com/2009/05/12/heres-the-video-of-arizona-pastor-getting-tazed-and-dragged-out-of-car/#comment-11677 Voice of Reason Tue, 19 May 2009 21:53:27 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=6504#comment-11677 Note to Zach: You said, <em>"Most of you are complete morons. Considering he was crossing a border, he had already given police the right to search his car."</em> Mr. Miller responded: <em>"Zach, Where does it say he was crossing the border? Obviously, you are not familiar with that region of the country but there are several Border Patrol checkpoints you must go through even if you don’t cross the border or in many cases, even if you don’t cross state lines."</em> Zach, if you have no objections, I'd like to use you to illustrate one of the key differences between human beings and animals. You may be able to counter Mr. Miller's point. However, if you can't address the issue, then you had no basis for your statement. You worked backwards to create the reality that you preferred. It doesn't matter if the driver was, or wasn't, actually crossing the border, since you proceeded without access to the facts. People will often guess at the facts. That's not unusual. The question is this: Are you able to <em>understand</em> that you had no basis for your statement? I suspect that the answer is no. If a low-level trigger has been activated, you're not able to reason at this level. However, if I'm mistaken, I'd like to hear about it. I'm working on a formal model related to this kind of thing, and your input would be helpful. Note to Zach: You said, “Most of you are complete morons. Considering he was crossing a border, he had already given police the right to search his car.”

Mr. Miller responded: “Zach, Where does it say he was crossing the border? Obviously, you are not familiar with that region of the country but there are several Border Patrol checkpoints you must go through even if you don’t cross the border or in many cases, even if you don’t cross state lines.”

Zach, if you have no objections, I’d like to use you to illustrate one of the key differences between human beings and animals.

You may be able to counter Mr. Miller’s point. However, if you can’t address the issue, then you had no basis for your statement. You worked backwards to create the reality that you preferred. It doesn’t matter if the driver was, or wasn’t, actually crossing the border, since you proceeded without access to the facts.

People will often guess at the facts. That’s not unusual. The question is this: Are you able to understand that you had no basis for your statement?

I suspect that the answer is no. If a low-level trigger has been activated, you’re not able to reason at this level. However, if I’m mistaken, I’d like to hear about it. I’m working on a formal model related to this kind of thing, and your input would be helpful.

]]> By: Rob Molecule http://carlosmiller.com/2009/05/12/heres-the-video-of-arizona-pastor-getting-tazed-and-dragged-out-of-car/#comment-11669 Rob Molecule Tue, 19 May 2009 16:34:11 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=6504#comment-11669 Here it is: <a href="http://www.aclu.org/privacy/spying/areyoulivinginaconstitutionfreezone.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.aclu.org/privacy/spying/areyoulivinginaconstitutionfreezone.html</a> Here it is:

http://www.aclu.org/privacy/spying/areyoulivinginaconstitutionfreezone.html

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