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	<title>Comments on: Mississippi ACLU worker found not guilty</title>
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		<title>By: xdamousex</title>
		<link>http://carlosmiller.com/2009/04/29/mississippi-aclu-worker-found-not-guilty/#comment-10599</link>
		<dc:creator>xdamousex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 16:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;There should always be at least one person standing farther back, filming exchanges of this type.&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s sad that this is the only recourse to keep many police officers from filing bogus charges and falsifying reports knowing that it&#039;s their word against the person they&#039;re arresting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>There should always be at least one person standing farther back, filming exchanges of this type.</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s sad that this is the only recourse to keep many police officers from filing bogus charges and falsifying reports knowing that it&#8217;s their word against the person they&#8217;re arresting.</p>
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		<title>By: Voice of Reason</title>
		<link>http://carlosmiller.com/2009/04/29/mississippi-aclu-worker-found-not-guilty/#comment-10574</link>
		<dc:creator>Voice of Reason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note to Carlos Miller: Thanks for your response to post 4.

Note to &quot;galvarez&quot;: You said, &lt;em&gt;&quot;Will it work or not. What outcome do you think will result?&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

You&#039;re being facetious. The suggestion is pointless. You know perfectly well that anybody who approached the matter as directly as you&#039;ve suggested would end up in serious trouble. However, there &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; something to what you&#039;ve said. If it&#039;s not an emergency situation, and I&#039;ll note that this case obviously didn&#039;t involve an emergency situation, are people &lt;em&gt;required&lt;/em&gt; to obey &lt;em&gt;&quot;lawful orders&quot;&lt;/em&gt; from individuals who refuse to properly identify themselves?

I&#039;m not being facetious. Additionally, people shouldn&#039;t conduct experiments related to this question unless photographers are present, preferably at least two photographers. However, if anybody who&#039;s reading this is familiar with the issues involved, I&#039;d appreciate the answer.

On a related note, I&#039;ve been surprised to see the kinds of risks that some of the people in these stories take. Speaking directly to people who might be inclined to try this kind of thing deliberately (as opposed to accidentally as in the current case), shouldn&#039;t you work in pairs? There should always be at least one person standing farther back, filming exchanges of this type.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note to Carlos Miller: Thanks for your response to post 4.</p>
<p>Note to &#8220;galvarez&#8221;: You said, <em>&#8220;Will it work or not. What outcome do you think will result?&#8221;</em></p>
<p>You&#8217;re being facetious. The suggestion is pointless. You know perfectly well that anybody who approached the matter as directly as you&#8217;ve suggested would end up in serious trouble. However, there <em>is</em> something to what you&#8217;ve said. If it&#8217;s not an emergency situation, and I&#8217;ll note that this case obviously didn&#8217;t involve an emergency situation, are people <em>required</em> to obey <em>&#8220;lawful orders&#8221;</em> from individuals who refuse to properly identify themselves?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not being facetious. Additionally, people shouldn&#8217;t conduct experiments related to this question unless photographers are present, preferably at least two photographers. However, if anybody who&#8217;s reading this is familiar with the issues involved, I&#8217;d appreciate the answer.</p>
<p>On a related note, I&#8217;ve been surprised to see the kinds of risks that some of the people in these stories take. Speaking directly to people who might be inclined to try this kind of thing deliberately (as opposed to accidentally as in the current case), shouldn&#8217;t you work in pairs? There should always be at least one person standing farther back, filming exchanges of this type.</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos Miller</title>
		<link>http://carlosmiller.com/2009/04/29/mississippi-aclu-worker-found-not-guilty/#comment-10573</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlos Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You will probably be arrested for false reporting.</description>
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		<title>By: galvarez</title>
		<link>http://carlosmiller.com/2009/04/29/mississippi-aclu-worker-found-not-guilty/#comment-10572</link>
		<dc:creator>galvarez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what if? Will it work or not. What outcome do you think will result? I wonder...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what if? Will it work or not. What outcome do you think will result? I wonder&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: galvarez</title>
		<link>http://carlosmiller.com/2009/04/29/mississippi-aclu-worker-found-not-guilty/#comment-10570</link>
		<dc:creator>galvarez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello 9-1-1 dispatch, My name is (your name here) I&#039;d like to report x number of unidentified individuals impersonating LEO(s). Please send a bona fide shield to this location.
Acknowledge please. What is your number dispatch?
Because they are issuing unlawful orders and behaving in a hostile and intimidating manner. Refusing to identify themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello 9-1-1 dispatch, My name is (your name here) I&#8217;d like to report x number of unidentified individuals impersonating LEO(s). Please send a bona fide shield to this location.<br />
Acknowledge please. What is your number dispatch?<br />
Because they are issuing unlawful orders and behaving in a hostile and intimidating manner. Refusing to identify themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos Miller</title>
		<link>http://carlosmiller.com/2009/04/29/mississippi-aclu-worker-found-not-guilty/#comment-10569</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlos Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VoR,

Because the ACLU apparently believes this information is irrelevant and have not released the names.</description>
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<p>Because the ACLU apparently believes this information is irrelevant and have not released the names.</p>
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		<title>By: Voice of Reason</title>
		<link>http://carlosmiller.com/2009/04/29/mississippi-aclu-worker-found-not-guilty/#comment-10568</link>
		<dc:creator>Voice of Reason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May I ask a question? Why didn&#039;t this article identify the &lt;em&gt;&quot;two Jackson police officers&quot;&lt;/em&gt; by name?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May I ask a question? Why didn&#8217;t this article identify the <em>&#8220;two Jackson police officers&#8221;</em> by name?</p>
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		<title>By: Duane Kerzic</title>
		<link>http://carlosmiller.com/2009/04/29/mississippi-aclu-worker-found-not-guilty/#comment-10567</link>
		<dc:creator>Duane Kerzic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, carrying around a long lens always attracts attention. I like my 24-70mm L even though it&#039;s not that long it&#039;s big and always gets noticed in both good and bad ways.

Interesting they wouldn&#039;t give names and badge numbers. That&#039;s required by law in every state I&#039;m aware of.

I guess cops need to have a certain degree of authoritarianism in their personalities to be attracted to the job in the first place. But I think the agencies USA have allowed those with too much authoritarianism on the force. I know that departments in other countries have problems but my interactions with police in both Mexico and Canada have had a different feel to them then many, but not all, of my interactions in the USA. This obviously isn&#039;t by any means a scientific study.

I just wonder if &quot;contempt of cop&quot; is more of an issue in the USA then it is in other countries? If this has something to do with the attitudes of the public and the people on the police forces? Is this just a feature of the human condition and the same everywhere?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, carrying around a long lens always attracts attention. I like my 24-70mm L even though it&#8217;s not that long it&#8217;s big and always gets noticed in both good and bad ways.</p>
<p>Interesting they wouldn&#8217;t give names and badge numbers. That&#8217;s required by law in every state I&#8217;m aware of.</p>
<p>I guess cops need to have a certain degree of authoritarianism in their personalities to be attracted to the job in the first place. But I think the agencies USA have allowed those with too much authoritarianism on the force. I know that departments in other countries have problems but my interactions with police in both Mexico and Canada have had a different feel to them then many, but not all, of my interactions in the USA. This obviously isn&#8217;t by any means a scientific study.</p>
<p>I just wonder if &#8220;contempt of cop&#8221; is more of an issue in the USA then it is in other countries? If this has something to do with the attitudes of the public and the people on the police forces? Is this just a feature of the human condition and the same everywhere?</p>
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		<title>By: diomedesxx</title>
		<link>http://carlosmiller.com/2009/04/29/mississippi-aclu-worker-found-not-guilty/#comment-10566</link>
		<dc:creator>diomedesxx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that would look even more &quot;suspicious&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that would look even more &#8220;suspicious&#8221;</p>
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