Comments on: Man told he needs to ask police permission to photograph in park http://carlosmiller.com/2009/04/02/man-told-he-needs-to-call-police-for-permission-to-photograph-in-park/ It's a First Amendment Right Sun, 01 Aug 2010 05:23:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=541 By: tony http://carlosmiller.com/2009/04/02/man-told-he-needs-to-call-police-for-permission-to-photograph-in-park/#comment-15415 tony Sat, 26 Sep 2009 16:05:33 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=5570#comment-15415 "cops aren’t answerable to the people." yes they are, if they werent then they would do whatever they hell they wanted to do, oh hell they do. NM I AGREE, THROW THEM IN THE SAME JAIL CELL WITH THE DRUGGIES THEY PUT THERE! now that would be justice, not the BS that is out there now!!! “cops aren’t answerable to the people.” yes they are, if they werent then they would do whatever they hell they wanted to do, oh hell they do. NM
I AGREE, THROW THEM IN THE SAME JAIL CELL WITH THE DRUGGIES THEY PUT THERE! now that would be justice, not the BS that is out there now!!!

]]> By: vince http://carlosmiller.com/2009/04/02/man-told-he-needs-to-call-police-for-permission-to-photograph-in-park/#comment-10819 vince Wed, 06 May 2009 20:28:05 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=5570#comment-10819 Protected area? or listed as potential target? Totally understandable that the person photographing would be questioned and ID'd if the area was listed as a potential target and levels were up. But that's it unless they determined some form of terrorist activity going along with the photos. I agree they shouldn't have made him delete photos. Rather thank him for his time and cooperation (assuming they were polite during the conversation) and be done with it. I think the problem wasn't necessarily with the officers but with their training and knowledge (lack thereof) as it relates to looking for and identifying "potential" terrorist type activity vs. us law abiding citizens who just like to take pictures. I love taking pictures of random things and events. @ac: don't know what state you're in but here in CA drug users get a slap on the wrist, not prison. further, cops aren't answerable to the people. they're answerable to their oath of office and their superiors. If that were the case, the fast food cook who burnt my hamburger should be answerable to ME! It's the elected officials that are answerable to the people. at least that's how I understand it. Protected area? or listed as potential target? Totally understandable that the person photographing would be questioned and ID’d if the area was listed as a potential target and levels were up. But that’s it unless they determined some form of terrorist activity going along with the photos. I agree they shouldn’t have made him delete photos. Rather thank him for his time and cooperation (assuming they were polite during the conversation) and be done with it. I think the problem wasn’t necessarily with the officers but with their training and knowledge (lack thereof) as it relates to looking for and identifying “potential” terrorist type activity vs. us law abiding citizens who just like to take pictures. I love taking pictures of random things and events.
@ac: don’t know what state you’re in but here in CA drug users get a slap on the wrist, not prison. further, cops aren’t answerable to the people. they’re answerable to their oath of office and their superiors. If that were the case, the fast food cook who burnt my hamburger should be answerable to ME! It’s the elected officials that are answerable to the people. at least that’s how I understand it.

]]> By: Zachary http://carlosmiller.com/2009/04/02/man-told-he-needs-to-call-police-for-permission-to-photograph-in-park/#comment-8977 Zachary Sun, 12 Apr 2009 03:11:04 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=5570#comment-8977 A few weeks ago my friend took some pictures of the smoke stacks on the power station that we live near. When he went home there were two detectives there who questioned him, asking him why he took the pictures and what he was going to do with them. They got his address because a security camera took a picture of his licenses plate. I live in New York State, it looks like this sort if thing happens all over the place. A few weeks ago my friend took some pictures of the smoke stacks on the power station that we live near. When he went home there were two detectives there who questioned him, asking him why he took the pictures and what he was going to do with them. They got his address because a security camera took a picture of his licenses plate. I live in New York State, it looks like this sort if thing happens all over the place.

]]> By: riffraff http://carlosmiller.com/2009/04/02/man-told-he-needs-to-call-police-for-permission-to-photograph-in-park/#comment-8632 riffraff Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:49:21 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=5570#comment-8632 No problem with the photo deletion. As long as you don't use the card after you delete, you can recover all the pics. Should you have to resort to that? Of course not. But not everyone has the time and money to fight such a bogus abuse of power, though. Sometimes, you have to pick your battles. No problem with the photo deletion. As long as you don’t use the card after you delete, you can recover all the pics. Should you have to resort to that? Of course not. But not everyone has the time and money to fight such a bogus abuse of power, though. Sometimes, you have to pick your battles.

]]> By: Keith http://carlosmiller.com/2009/04/02/man-told-he-needs-to-call-police-for-permission-to-photograph-in-park/#comment-7618 Keith Mon, 06 Apr 2009 22:03:59 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=5570#comment-7618 I say 1000 photographers show up at that park this Saturday and start taking pictures all at the same time. The First Annual Chelsea Photo-Cookout!!! I say 1000 photographers show up at that park this Saturday and start taking pictures all at the same time.

The First Annual Chelsea Photo-Cookout!!!

]]> By: Nathan http://carlosmiller.com/2009/04/02/man-told-he-needs-to-call-police-for-permission-to-photograph-in-park/#comment-7601 Nathan Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:13:53 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=5570#comment-7601 For the benefit of the readers here, I was actually in this conversation with Joe. I am glad to see it covered here as well. Here is the flickr link to the discussion before the Bostonist decided to cover this story. http://www.flickr.com/groups/bostonmassachusetts_/discuss/72157615934669260/ For the benefit of the readers here, I was actually in this conversation with Joe. I am glad to see it covered here as well.

Here is the flickr link to the discussion before the Bostonist decided to cover this story.

http://www.flickr.com/groups/bostonmassachusetts_/discuss/72157615934669260/

]]> By: Tim http://carlosmiller.com/2009/04/02/man-told-he-needs-to-call-police-for-permission-to-photograph-in-park/#comment-7574 Tim Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:36:03 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=5570#comment-7574 Has this guy who was hijacked by these Tax-a-fag-a-poo-shitts cops ever though of putting his disk in a JPEG Recovery program and then post the photos online just to say 'Up Yours!' to these cops who flagrantly abused authority they should never have been entrusted with in the first place? Has this guy who was hijacked by these Tax-a-fag-a-poo-shitts cops ever though of putting his disk in a JPEG Recovery program and then post the photos online just to say ‘Up Yours!’ to these cops who flagrantly abused authority they should never have been entrusted with in the first place?

]]> By: ac http://carlosmiller.com/2009/04/02/man-told-he-needs-to-call-police-for-permission-to-photograph-in-park/#comment-7361 ac Sun, 05 Apr 2009 14:48:37 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=5570#comment-7361 its time for zero tolerance ON POLICE who break the law. 10-20 years in prison. right next to those that they arrested for drug-use crimes. drug users get that sentence for non-violent 'crimes'. cops who break the law should have EASILY that much jail time thrown at them. the only way they'll learn is if they're answerable to The People. sadly, they are not, right now. its time for zero tolerance ON POLICE who break the law.

10-20 years in prison. right next to those that they arrested for drug-use crimes.

drug users get that sentence for non-violent ‘crimes’. cops who break the law should have EASILY that much jail time thrown at them.

the only way they’ll learn is if they’re answerable to The People. sadly, they are not, right now.

]]> By: CL Jahn http://carlosmiller.com/2009/04/02/man-told-he-needs-to-call-police-for-permission-to-photograph-in-park/#comment-7265 CL Jahn Sun, 05 Apr 2009 02:27:51 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=5570#comment-7265 Gary Rupper is, of course, completely and totally dead wrong. As is Chief Kyes when he claims that the police "must balance the rights" of US citizens. In fact, the police do not have that responsibility: that is what we have courts for. The job of the police is simply to enforce the law. The law says it's ok for citizens to take pictures in the park. End of that issue. Since Chief Kyes does not understand this, this should be the end of his career in law enforcment. Gary Rupper is, of course, completely and totally dead wrong. As is Chief Kyes when he claims that the police “must balance the rights” of US citizens. In fact, the police do not have that responsibility: that is what we have courts for. The job of the police is simply to enforce the law. The law says it’s ok for citizens to take pictures in the park.

End of that issue.

Since Chief Kyes does not understand this, this should be the end of his career in law enforcment.

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