Comments on: UK photographers kiss their freedoms good-bye http://carlosmiller.com/2009/02/16/uk-photographers-kiss-their-freedoms-good-bye/ It's a First Amendment Right Sun, 26 Jun 2011 02:03:25 +0000 hourly 1 By: the_fonz http://carlosmiller.com/2009/02/16/uk-photographers-kiss-their-freedoms-good-bye/#comment-20240 the_fonz Wed, 03 Mar 2010 18:29:48 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=4512#comment-20240 See this film for info on the problems faced by photographers and filmmakers, 'Policing the Public Gaze', http://www.worldbytes.org/programmes/013/013_004.html See this film for info on the problems faced by photographers and filmmakers, ‘Policing the Public Gaze’, http://www.worldbytes.org/programmes/013/013_004.html

]]> By: David http://carlosmiller.com/2009/02/16/uk-photographers-kiss-their-freedoms-good-bye/#comment-5304 David Wed, 18 Feb 2009 20:58:11 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=4512#comment-5304 Awesome, so even though the UK is littered with CCTV cameras watching citizens' every move, the citizens themselves aren't allowed to photograph police? The state exists for the citizens, not the other way around. Awesome, so even though the UK is littered with CCTV cameras watching citizens’ every move, the citizens themselves aren’t allowed to photograph police? The state exists for the citizens, not the other way around.

]]> By: Eyebee http://carlosmiller.com/2009/02/16/uk-photographers-kiss-their-freedoms-good-bye/#comment-5234 Eyebee Tue, 17 Feb 2009 19:07:45 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=4512#comment-5234 UK Law is based on common law, rather than a written constitution. UK Law is based on common law, rather than a written constitution.

]]> By: Carlos Miller http://carlosmiller.com/2009/02/16/uk-photographers-kiss-their-freedoms-good-bye/#comment-5230 Carlos Miller Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:48:54 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=4512#comment-5230 The former director of the M15, which is UK's version of the CIA, believes the UK is turning into a police state. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/4643415/Spy-chief-We-risk-a-police-state.html The former director of the M15, which is UK’s version of the CIA, believes the UK is turning into a police state.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/4643415/Spy-chief-We-risk-a-police-state.html

]]> By: Carlos Miller http://carlosmiller.com/2009/02/16/uk-photographers-kiss-their-freedoms-good-bye/#comment-5226 Carlos Miller Tue, 17 Feb 2009 14:35:19 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=4512#comment-5226 Last year, police in the UK were given the right to set their own restrictions regarding photography, thus allowing them to interpret the law, not just enforce the law. http://carlosmiller.com/2008/07/06/uk-police-allowed-to-set-their-own-restrictions-on-public-photography/ Now with this law, which puts photographers on the same level as terrorists, we can only imagine how police are going to enforce this law. Or even how the judges will approach these cases. This is a huge, huge setback not just for photographers but for civil libertarians in general. It basically means that if you take a picture of a cop, and they don't like your attitude about it, you can wind up in prison for ten years. Last year, police in the UK were given the right to set their own restrictions regarding photography, thus allowing them to interpret the law, not just enforce the law.

http://carlosmiller.com/2008/07/06/uk-police-allowed-to-set-their-own-restrictions-on-public-photography/

Now with this law, which puts photographers on the same level as terrorists, we can only imagine how police are going to enforce this law.

Or even how the judges will approach these cases.

This is a huge, huge setback not just for photographers but for civil libertarians in general.

It basically means that if you take a picture of a cop, and they don’t like your attitude about it, you can wind up in prison for ten years.

]]> By: Cigar Mike http://carlosmiller.com/2009/02/16/uk-photographers-kiss-their-freedoms-good-bye/#comment-5225 Cigar Mike Tue, 17 Feb 2009 14:26:08 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=4512#comment-5225 by "marked areas" I guess they'll post signs as a warning? maybe it's time to get out those Leicas and start shooting from the hip again. by “marked areas” I guess they’ll post signs as a warning? maybe it’s time to get out those Leicas and start shooting from the hip again.

]]> By: NYArt http://carlosmiller.com/2009/02/16/uk-photographers-kiss-their-freedoms-good-bye/#comment-5224 NYArt Tue, 17 Feb 2009 14:18:25 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=4512#comment-5224 <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7216815.stm" rel="nofollow">Here we go, BBC article from Jan 09;</a> It looks like it's limited to 'marked' areas but there probably won't be any check/balances in place about where and how those are set up. There's also a call to "get rid of red tape" which then also removes accountability regarding abusing the system. Here we go, BBC article from Jan 09;

It looks like it’s limited to ‘marked’ areas but there probably won’t be any check/balances in place about where and how those are set up.

There’s also a call to “get rid of red tape” which then also removes accountability regarding abusing the system.

]]> By: NYArt http://carlosmiller.com/2009/02/16/uk-photographers-kiss-their-freedoms-good-bye/#comment-5219 NYArt Tue, 17 Feb 2009 13:08:37 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=4512#comment-5219 @ Cigar: we don't have a single codified document like the States but there are written protections like the Magna Carta, Habeas Corpus Act, Bill of Right.. etc.. etc.. (as an aside, we *used* to be able to bare arms in defence.. I didn't know that) On topic... what's more worrying is the legislation that's being passed that will allow the authorities the abilities to stop people in the street for *no* reason (I can't find the links right now), although there are *supposed* to be limitations on the reasons to search you can bet the police will find some in addition to using S44 as a catch all (when it's not supposed to be used like that). God help you if you get stopped, searched and a camera revealed... @ Cigar: we don’t have a single codified document like the States but there are written protections like the Magna Carta, Habeas Corpus Act, Bill of Right.. etc.. etc.. (as an aside, we *used* to be able to bare arms in defence.. I didn’t know that)

On topic… what’s more worrying is the legislation that’s being passed that will allow the authorities the abilities to stop people in the street for *no* reason (I can’t find the links right now), although there are *supposed* to be limitations on the reasons to search you can bet the police will find some in addition to using S44 as a catch all (when it’s not supposed to be used like that). God help you if you get stopped, searched and a camera revealed…

]]> By: Carlos Miller http://carlosmiller.com/2009/02/16/uk-photographers-kiss-their-freedoms-good-bye/#comment-5209 Carlos Miller Tue, 17 Feb 2009 06:04:37 +0000 http://carlosmiller.com/?p=4512#comment-5209 oh I get it all right. The reason I blog about the UK is that their government has a lot of influence on our government and vice versa. oh I get it all right. The reason I blog about the UK is that their government has a lot of influence on our government and vice versa.

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