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		<title>By: figMiNT</title>
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		<dc:creator>figMiNT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jul 2010 10:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EDIT: 

It’s crazy to think about how different &quot;6,602 people die a day&quot; and &quot;Oscar Grant III was shot today&quot; sounds and affects people.

I wonder if there’s coverage somewhere on the other 6,601 people that day and they were named.

I didn&#039;t know that statistic --and that&#039;s one from 2001 until today.</description>
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<p>It’s crazy to think about how different &#8220;6,602 people die a day&#8221; and &#8220;Oscar Grant III was shot today&#8221; sounds and affects people.</p>
<p>I wonder if there’s coverage somewhere on the other 6,601 people that day and they were named.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t know that statistic &#8211;and that&#8217;s one from 2001 until today.<br />
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		<title>By: figMiNT</title>
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		<dc:creator>figMiNT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jul 2010 10:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I almost threw up the first time I watched this video.

1. Because of what happened in the video.
2. Because I voluntarily watched the video.
3. Because people so openly post this video online.

I can count the number of times I&#039;ve vomited on my hands (including alcohol induced--two times) so I consider it a pretty big deal for me. I don&#039;t want to digress too much so let&#039;s leave it at that.

After I cleared my mind, I watched the video again and slowed it down (pressing the pause and play button fast) and have noticed many things. 

The officer closest to the camera steps back and the one of the farthest to the right who doesn’t see what happens quickly reaches for his gun, looks to see what happens and steps really far back along with a handcuffed person. Then Johannes Mehserie, the one who discharged his firearm, looks down (probably at his gun or possibly at Oscar Grant). I also stopped the video where I could clearly see him gun-in-hand. From my perspective, I see doubt and denial in Johannes because of how he looks back down twice so quickly. Then the other officer gets down and shortly after so does Johannes and they move Oscar (which was not smart at all). I wish they rolled him over and then applied pressure to the wound while calling for an ambulance, but honestly I didn’t think he had much of a chance from such a close range shot.

Not doing too much research into the matter. I found out that Johannes resigned shortly after that day and he wrote a letter which I would hope would be included in the update to this story.

http://www.insidebayarea.com/top-stories/ci_15477924 July 5th. That’s a confession to me.

Saying that what he wrote is manure and a lie and what he did was premeditated murder is ludicrous. It’s a great example of a very unprepared LEO. I also have looked at many pictures of his face during his conviction on July 8th. That’s the look of guilt and shame. 

I do not think that (note: think--I’m not entirely sure) you the right not to turn your phone over if it and/or you witnessed a crime. I think that’s why good cops confiscate evidence, because they want to help the case. Bad cops want to help their case, yes and evidence disappears. But I do not see how even if all videos disappeared that this would not get heard.

To end on a tangent:

It’s crazy how 6,602 people die a day to Oscar Grant III was shot today. 

I wonder if there’s coverage somewhere on the other 6,601 people that day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I almost threw up the first time I watched this video.</p>
<p>1. Because of what happened in the video.<br />
2. Because I voluntarily watched the video.<br />
3. Because people so openly post this video online.</p>
<p>I can count the number of times I&#8217;ve vomited on my hands (including alcohol induced&#8211;two times) so I consider it a pretty big deal for me. I don&#8217;t want to digress too much so let&#8217;s leave it at that.</p>
<p>After I cleared my mind, I watched the video again and slowed it down (pressing the pause and play button fast) and have noticed many things. </p>
<p>The officer closest to the camera steps back and the one of the farthest to the right who doesn’t see what happens quickly reaches for his gun, looks to see what happens and steps really far back along with a handcuffed person. Then Johannes Mehserie, the one who discharged his firearm, looks down (probably at his gun or possibly at Oscar Grant). I also stopped the video where I could clearly see him gun-in-hand. From my perspective, I see doubt and denial in Johannes because of how he looks back down twice so quickly. Then the other officer gets down and shortly after so does Johannes and they move Oscar (which was not smart at all). I wish they rolled him over and then applied pressure to the wound while calling for an ambulance, but honestly I didn’t think he had much of a chance from such a close range shot.</p>
<p>Not doing too much research into the matter. I found out that Johannes resigned shortly after that day and he wrote a letter which I would hope would be included in the update to this story.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.insidebayarea.com/top-stories/ci_15477924" rel="nofollow">http://www.insidebayarea.com/top-stories/ci_15477924</a> July 5th. That’s a confession to me.</p>
<p>Saying that what he wrote is manure and a lie and what he did was premeditated murder is ludicrous. It’s a great example of a very unprepared LEO. I also have looked at many pictures of his face during his conviction on July 8th. That’s the look of guilt and shame. </p>
<p>I do not think that (note: think&#8211;I’m not entirely sure) you the right not to turn your phone over if it and/or you witnessed a crime. I think that’s why good cops confiscate evidence, because they want to help the case. Bad cops want to help their case, yes and evidence disappears. But I do not see how even if all videos disappeared that this would not get heard.</p>
<p>To end on a tangent:</p>
<p>It’s crazy how 6,602 people die a day to Oscar Grant III was shot today. </p>
<p>I wonder if there’s coverage somewhere on the other 6,601 people that day.<br />
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		<title>By: Figure Skating DVD</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 08:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mr.Floppy</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 08:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poor Oscar - you totally didn&#039;t deserve that. I&#039;m a white father of 2 boys and quite frankly our police scare me stiff when I think of my kids going out and about - God only knows what it&#039;s like for Black or Hispanic parents.   Of course a person is going to resist when someone forces him to the ground and an a 200 lb man puts his knee on him - it hurts and they know it.  What the hell was this moron doing in a police uniform?  I saw no need to reach for weapon of any kind.  This was just plain stupidity - how many more of these morons are out there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor Oscar &#8211; you totally didn&#8217;t deserve that. I&#8217;m a white father of 2 boys and quite frankly our police scare me stiff when I think of my kids going out and about &#8211; God only knows what it&#8217;s like for Black or Hispanic parents.   Of course a person is going to resist when someone forces him to the ground and an a 200 lb man puts his knee on him &#8211; it hurts and they know it.  What the hell was this moron doing in a police uniform?  I saw no need to reach for weapon of any kind.  This was just plain stupidity &#8211; how many more of these morons are out there?</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlos Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 05:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a new video out that offers a much clearer view.

http://carlosmiller.com/2009/01/09/new-video-of-bart-shooting-emerges-offering-clearest-view-so-far-and-audio/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a new video out that offers a much clearer view.</p>
<p><a href="http://carlosmiller.com/2009/01/09/new-video-of-bart-shooting-emerges-offering-clearest-view-so-far-and-audio/" rel="nofollow">http://carlosmiller.com/2009/01/09/new-video-of-bart-shooting-emerges-offering-clearest-view-so-far-and-audio/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 03:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve seen the videos and it doesn&#039;t seem like an &quot;honest mistake&quot; on the part of the cop, Johannes Mehserle. It looks to me as though Mehserle (only 2 years on the force) snapped under pressure. Maybe he just couldn&#039;t deal with the stress of what was going on, reached for his gun in anger, shot the poor guy, and then realized what he did.

Well, it’s too late for an “I’m sorry.” Among other things, I’d like to know how this guy did on his psychological evaluation (assuming he had to undergo one), before being hired as a BART Police Officer.

It really is the ultimate outrage when a “peace officer” who is charged with protecting ALL PEOPLE cannot properly RESTRAIN HIMSELF, let alone the person who he is supposed to be subduing or taking into custody.

Mehserle needs to be held to account for his actions and at an even higher level (since he was a sworn officer) than the average person. He should be tried for Murder 1. Regardless of the outcome of any criminal trial, he should NEVER be allowed the use or possession of any firearm or weapon of any sort. Additionally, he should be made to pay a HEFTY fine.

I guess if I were Mehserle, I would probably use the gun on myself. I wouldn’t be able to live with myself if I had done what he did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen the videos and it doesn&#8217;t seem like an &#8220;honest mistake&#8221; on the part of the cop, Johannes Mehserle. It looks to me as though Mehserle (only 2 years on the force) snapped under pressure. Maybe he just couldn&#8217;t deal with the stress of what was going on, reached for his gun in anger, shot the poor guy, and then realized what he did.</p>
<p>Well, it’s too late for an “I’m sorry.” Among other things, I’d like to know how this guy did on his psychological evaluation (assuming he had to undergo one), before being hired as a BART Police Officer.</p>
<p>It really is the ultimate outrage when a “peace officer” who is charged with protecting ALL PEOPLE cannot properly RESTRAIN HIMSELF, let alone the person who he is supposed to be subduing or taking into custody.</p>
<p>Mehserle needs to be held to account for his actions and at an even higher level (since he was a sworn officer) than the average person. He should be tried for Murder 1. Regardless of the outcome of any criminal trial, he should NEVER be allowed the use or possession of any firearm or weapon of any sort. Additionally, he should be made to pay a HEFTY fine.</p>
<p>I guess if I were Mehserle, I would probably use the gun on myself. I wouldn’t be able to live with myself if I had done what he did.</p>
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		<title>By: Jocelyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jocelyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 03:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you are white,  thank God you willl never have to do what I and millions of Black mothers have to do to prepare our sons for encounters with law enforcement---give him tips that you hope will save their lives.  When my son began driving I told him that if he is ever stopped by cops, esepcially on  a dark road, and they begin insulting him or calling him racial slurs, he is to say nothing, especially about his &quot;rights&quot;, because cops have &quot;law and order&quot; attached to their hips and do not hesitate to dispense it to young black men.  I told him that I would file a complaint about any abusuve teartement, at a later point, durng the daytime, with a witness, and that at least he would be alive.  What happened to Oscar Grant is the nightmare that every mother of color with a son dreads if her son encounters cops.  Anyone, except for the most rabid racist, can see on the video that Oscar had his hands up, before he was executed. The raised hands are the universal sign of surrender and &quot;I am unarmed.&quot;  A few bloggers on other sites who state they were witnesses said that Oscar took a photo with his phone of one of the cops smashing a &quot;suspect&#039;s&quot; head on the ground and THAT is when Merhles (sp?) went after Oscar. (Admitttedly, taking the photo was not the best thing to do...fatal in fact.) How eerily ironic that Merhles would take a life, so close to the time that his girlfriend was bringing life into the world. My son is in college studying to be a cop. He watched the video. He called me, shaken up. He asked a question that I could not answer, maybe his teacher can: &quot;How can cops expect the public to trust and respect us,  when you have a cop do something like that?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are white,  thank God you willl never have to do what I and millions of Black mothers have to do to prepare our sons for encounters with law enforcement&#8212;give him tips that you hope will save their lives.  When my son began driving I told him that if he is ever stopped by cops, esepcially on  a dark road, and they begin insulting him or calling him racial slurs, he is to say nothing, especially about his &#8220;rights&#8221;, because cops have &#8220;law and order&#8221; attached to their hips and do not hesitate to dispense it to young black men.  I told him that I would file a complaint about any abusuve teartement, at a later point, durng the daytime, with a witness, and that at least he would be alive.  What happened to Oscar Grant is the nightmare that every mother of color with a son dreads if her son encounters cops.  Anyone, except for the most rabid racist, can see on the video that Oscar had his hands up, before he was executed. The raised hands are the universal sign of surrender and &#8220;I am unarmed.&#8221;  A few bloggers on other sites who state they were witnesses said that Oscar took a photo with his phone of one of the cops smashing a &#8220;suspect&#8217;s&#8221; head on the ground and THAT is when Merhles (sp?) went after Oscar. (Admitttedly, taking the photo was not the best thing to do&#8230;fatal in fact.) How eerily ironic that Merhles would take a life, so close to the time that his girlfriend was bringing life into the world. My son is in college studying to be a cop. He watched the video. He called me, shaken up. He asked a question that I could not answer, maybe his teacher can: &#8220;How can cops expect the public to trust and respect us,  when you have a cop do something like that?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 02:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously, getting into a non-lethal altercation shouldn&#039;t warrant a death penalty. However, the cops would not had to have been there in the first place if his group and the other group hadn&#039;t started a fight on public transportation. It&#039;s not a gladiator arena for Christ&#039;s sakes.

The cop should be charged and I wonder if all those involved in that argument think it was worth it now? Karma&#039;s a bitch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously, getting into a non-lethal altercation shouldn&#8217;t warrant a death penalty. However, the cops would not had to have been there in the first place if his group and the other group hadn&#8217;t started a fight on public transportation. It&#8217;s not a gladiator arena for Christ&#8217;s sakes.</p>
<p>The cop should be charged and I wonder if all those involved in that argument think it was worth it now? Karma&#8217;s a bitch.</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlos Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 01:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not surprised that he resigned. It&#039;s actually in his best interest because now he can just exercise his Fifth Amendment right to remain silent.

But the evidence against him is so overwhelming that I doubt it will do him any good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not surprised that he resigned. It&#8217;s actually in his best interest because now he can just exercise his Fifth Amendment right to remain silent.</p>
<p>But the evidence against him is so overwhelming that I doubt it will do him any good.</p>
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