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My latest – and final – dilemma with Lunar Pages

November 3rd, 2008 · 10 Comments

By Carlos Miller
I’m back. Again. This time with even more hate for Lunar Pages.

You might remember back in early August I was having issues with my hosting company, Lunar Pages, when they informed me that this site was “using too much resources”.

Because I was getting an exceptionally high number of readers due to interest in my trial along with the Scott Conover exclusive, Lunar Pages ended up removing my blog – without warning – from the shared server it was on, which essentially meant that my blog disappeared from the web during a time of extremely high readership.

I ended up having to cut and paste the Conover story on my other website, Magic City Mania, which is my more literary blog and not designed for the more journalistic tone I take on this site. I’ve since put that story back on this site and would like to remove it from that blog, but it still gets tons of page views.

At the time, Lunar Pages refused to place the blog back on the shared server, telling me it would be detrimental to all the other blogs on the server and lead to a complete breakdown on the World Wide Web.

The only alternative, they told me, was to upgrade to a Virtual Private Server, which meant I had to pay $45 a month instead of eight dollars

I agreed to upgrade my account on a month to month basis with the intention of shopping around for another hosting company. I ended up back online a few days later.

At the time, I had specifically informed them that I wanted to keep my shared server account open because I did not want to move my two other sites to the VPS, only to have to move them again when I switched to a new company. Migrating websites to a different hosting company is more stressful than relocating across state borders, which I’ve done several times. At least for a techno-dunce like me.

Because I find this so nerve-racking and because I could not find a company that would charge me less than $45 a month, I stayed with Lunar Pages, telling myself I would eventually get around to doing it.

After all, every company I spoke with informed me that my blog gets way too much traffic for a shared server. One of them told me they figure this out by checking out my site’s stats on Whois, something I haven’t been able to figure out how to do.

I did find this hard to believe because although my blog’s readership has increased dramatically since my trial, I don’t get near the readership that some blogs do. Of course, I have no idea what platform they are using to host their sites.

On Thursday, my site went down again, along with my two other sites and my email accounts. When I called Lunar Pages, they acted as if they had no idea why this was happening. They first tried to blame Go Daddy, which is where I bought my domains, then they tried to blame me for not properly uploading the files to the new server, as if a mistake like this would suddenly pop up more than two months after the fact.

The truth is, they ended up placing my site back on the shared server after I had agreed to upgrade to the VPS. And last Thursday, they decided to shut down my shared server account without informing me because they figured I had all my sites on the VPS.

It turns out, I never had anything on the VPS. I was paying $45 a month for nothing. All my sites were on the shared server, including this site, which miraculously did not cause a breakdown in the World Wide Web.

They didn’t admit this until late Friday afternoon, after I had spent hours talking and griping to a multitude of tech workers who make up Lunar Pages’ “help desk”. And they told me it would be nearly impossible for them to retrieve my lost files.

They tried to justify their actions by blaming me for not uploading my files to the new server, which I specifically remember doing. They also blamed me because I insisted on keeping my shared server running, which apparently caused them much confusion.

“Most people only use one server,” one condescending punk told me.

When I asked him how come my site was back on the shared server, especially after the problems it supposedly had caused, he blamed me by telling me it was my responsibility to make sure it goes on the right server. He informed me that their job is to only provide server space and nothing else.

When I asked him to at least help me set up my email account again, he grudgingly walked me through a few steps on the Plesk control panel, but only after telling me, “I won’t spend all day with you”.

Friday night, I finally spoke to a guy who admitted they had screwed up by neglecting to do whatever it is they need to do to make my site go live. He also said they had canceled my shared server account – without contacting me – because they had assumed I had migrated all my sites to the VPS.

He was probably the tenth person I had spoken with since my site went down and was very professional and courteous, unlike the previous nine. He set up a new shared account for me free of charges and was able to retrieve my lost files and place them on C-panel, where I was able to download them to my computer.

On Saturday, I decided to switch to Go Daddy on a month to month basis to see how it goes. I am paying $14 a month for “unlimited space” on a shared server, so we’ll see how true that is.

I am far from a techno guru, so I’ve been spending the last two days trying to complete the migration. I’ve managed to get two sites up and running, but I still need to get my Magic City Media site up again. But I’m having some issue with the SQL database and the “delimiter”. And the solution to the problem lies somewhere here.

And although I’ve placed the proper settings on my email account so it will work through Go Daddy, I am hearing reports that some emails are getting bounced back. But others are making it through, so who knows.

I’ve also lost some comments on the last post before the blog went down, which I will try to retrieve though my emails. So no, I’m not trying to censor anybody.

And although my billing month with Lunar Pages ends on Nov. 7th, they’ve already charged $45 to my credit card. Today, I called to cancel my account and order them to return my money, as well as the money they charged for the previous months, but they told me I had to cancel via email.

When I asked why, they said they do this with VPS accounts because they want to get it on record that the customer wanted this, in case they delete his files without him backing them up. Obviously, they don’t practice this custom with shared server accounts.

So stay tuned to my email, which I will post here and plan to CC to Lunar Pages CEO Ron Riddle, if I can find his email address.

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10 responses so far ↓

  • 1 OneByTheCee // Nov 4, 2008 at 12:07 AM

    At first I thought the government shut you down or cut me off but I have since resumed my medication and you’re back online, so all is calm!!!

    I wanted to provide you a link to an article I found on Officer.com about the police and video/cameras titled:

    Playing To The Camera
    Are You Comfortable On Stage?

    http://www.officer.com/web/online/On-the-Street/Playing-To-The-Camera/21$43890

  • 2 kitanis // Nov 4, 2008 at 1:18 AM

    Mr. Miller.

    I too was afraid that you were shut down by some action against you.. but i am glad that your back up.

    Your insights on the main subject to me are a comfort. and to me is interesting.

  • 3 genewitch // Nov 4, 2008 at 1:36 PM

    Weird, i thought you had switched to hostmonster like i did?

    They promise unlimited bandwidth, and when i called them, they assured me that when they said unlimited bandwidth, they meant it.

  • 4 Carlos Miller // Nov 4, 2008 at 5:45 PM

    OneByTheCee and kitanis,

    I would hope the government has bigger fish to fry than me. But thanks for reading!

    genewitch,

    As I was researching host monster, I came across a few items that made me hesitate to go with them.

    http://hostmonstersucks.blogspot.com/2007/02/story.html

    http://www.ozzu.com/hosting-forum/stay-away-from-hostmonster-t64978.html

    http://www.vistainter.com/reviews/H/hostmonster.com/

    http://thenavap.net/2008/06/09/hostmonster-sucks/

    I used to host through Go Daddy and I left them because at the time, I found some of their tech people to be incompetent.

    But they never knocked my site off line, they never canceled my account without warning, they were never condescending towards me and they do have 24/7 tech service, unlike LP, which only claims they do.

    And in the last few days dealing with them, I’ve called them a multitude of times in dealing with different issues trying to get my sites up and they’ve been very helpful and patient with me – even though they always try to get me to commit to a two-year deal.

    I’m going month to month for now and I really hope Go Daddy works out for me.

    The other reason I went with GD is that I had already purchased my domains through them, so I figured it would be more efficient if I can have all my website services under one company.

  • 5 pod // Nov 6, 2008 at 10:24 PM

    Go Daddy’s gonna fuck you like a squad bitch during Fleet Week.

    For cheap shared hosting that isn’t gonna throw a fit if you “go over”, I’d recommend Dreamhost. When you go over in traffic or CPU usage, they put you in “limbo”, which is just a slow-ass server, but your site is still up and kinda-sorta runs.

    Then they work with you to figure out how to make the most of your plan, i.e. what might be causing the problem. If it’s traffic, there’s not much they can do, but if it’s something else like CPU utilization, they’ll help you reconfigure your site for better efficiency.

    I’d also recommend getting far, far away from SQL if possible. A lot of blogs I’ve been seeing and working with are moving to Mephisto Blog (mephistoblog.com) which is basically a Ruby on Rails app. RoR is scary easy to learn, and you can have basic things running really fast and efficient. What took pages of PHP takes a few lines of Ruby. I’m not a programmer, but part of our site runs on RoR and I picked up the basics in about a week. Enough to put up a blog if I was inclined. And it plays nice with SQL, making implementation real easy.

    Oh, and the usual, first-time-poster-longtime-reader BS…keep up the good work!

  • 6 Carlos Miller // Nov 7, 2008 at 3:50 AM

    pod,

    I’m already having with issues with Go Daddy with them saying my mailbox is full when people are trying to send me emails.

    I will look into Dreamhost because I can see now that Go Daddy is not going to work.

    Thanks for the compliments.

  • 7 Carlos Miller // Nov 7, 2008 at 11:32 PM

    pod,

    I don’t know about Dreamhost. Check out these reviews.

    http://www.webhostingjury.com/reviews/DreamHost

  • 8 Ed // Nov 23, 2008 at 5:37 PM

    A good stable host is Domatic they have been hosting sites for almost 10 years, i personally have had my website with them since 2001. My friends record label schematic.net is never down and receives huge traffic. i have recommended over 100 of my friends to them and everyone is happy with their services and support. Btw: we run a very large site with them never any downtime. cheers!!! Perfecto ;)

  • 9 Steve Arun // Nov 26, 2008 at 3:21 AM

    I believe you are right. I am suffering now as I suggested my client to go to Lunarpages, and now he feels I have no idea about hosting companies.

    Here is the case, i am referring. I think you can help me out.

    - I am developing a Price comparison store for my Michigan based client where I needed windows hosting. I researched and found too many positive reviews about lunarpages.

    - Later when I started migrating data, the SQL server stopped as it has only 800 MB space, where as Lunarpages committed me unlimited SQL.

    - I have extracted data from CJ, Linkshare and several similar merchants which is approximately 30 GB space in my local machine. This will keep on growing every month.

    - Every day I call them and they it’s unlimited space but you need to reconfigure your enterprise manager settings.

    I failed the deadline just because the hosting and it’s killing confidence level as this is 10th day I have no clue what to do.

    I can migrate from Lunarpages at this stage because my developers need to work again. We are also using a test domain with them where I am uploading my daily development work.

    This is something unbelievable but true. I have over 15 years of marketing experience and this is 7nth year of full time exposure with internet and hosting and I am sorry to say that I never came across such a bad service.

  • 10 Steve Arun // Nov 27, 2008 at 8:49 AM

    An Update:

    The senior technical consultant of Lunarpages contacted me today and willing to provide me direct access to SQL Server. They have promised me to do some specific changes so that i can upload 30 GB of database without any interruption.

    I will keep this updated since they have contacted me after reading your post (May be)

    Thanks!

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